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Le dimanche 26 ao=FBt 2012 14:16:54 UTC+2, xorxes a =E9crit :
 A different issue are symbols like 1, 2, 3 that stand for words, or if=20
 you were to use =AB as replacement for lu rather than in addition to it.=
=20
 In that case the reader needs to know how to pronounce the symbol,=20
 which now is part of the text, and its location obviously has to be=20
 where the spelled out word would have been.=20

ta'a

Cf. http://www.loglan.org/Texts/nepo-neri-vizgoi.html
and: =91Note the use of the Loglan left-quotation-mark *=AB*, pronounced /l=
i/,=20
of course. When we see this mark, or any other abbreviating mark, we know=
=20
that the writer is "punctuating" w's text. We can then expect w to use=20
punctuation marks instead of punctuation words, letterals instead of letter=
=20
words, and numerals instead of number words throughout w's composition.=92

I think it=92s interesting, but horrible. .e'o mi'o na'e zukte tai la'e do'=
i

Btw, I think that {=ABlu =85 li=92u=BB} looks better than {lu=AB =85 =BBli'=
u}. I think=20
that =ABSwiss=BB looks better than =BBGerman=AB, and =BBGerman=AB looks bet=
ter than=20
=BBSwedish=BB, but as you can see, different people do things in different =
ways=20
and are used to different styles.

Regarding for Mr Christopher Plummer=92s hypothetical performance: I think =
he=20
could do {=ABlu =85 li=92u=BB} just fine, as French narrators apparently ha=
ve no=20
problems with {=AB Quotation quotation, says the speaker, quotation=20
quotation. =BB}. In some books, a single opening quotation marks the=20
beginning of a whole block of dialogue, which ends with a single closing=20
quotation mark. In other books, there is an opening quotation mark at the=
=20
beginning of every single line of text, and just one closing mark at the=20
end.

Many people are used to =91technical=92 (character-exact) quotation today, =
but=20
that=92s not the only way to use quotation marks. In Lojban, especially, we=
=20
can take some liberties because, supposedly, real confusion cannot arise.

I think the style adopted for http://alis.lojban.org/ is good. (The only=20
thing that slightly irritates me is that there are no dots at rising=20
diphthongs, ie {ui} where I would have expected {.ui} and would utter a=20
glottal stop.)

-iesk

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Le dimanche 26 ao=FBt 2012 14:16:54 UTC+2, xorxes a =E9crit&nbsp;:<br>&nbsp=
;A different issue are symbols like 1, 2, 3 that stand for words, or if
<div>&nbsp;you were to use =AB as replacement for lu rather than in additio=
n to it.
<br></div><div>&nbsp;In that case the reader needs to know how to pronounce=
 the symbol,
</div><div>&nbsp;which now is part of the text, and its location obviously =
has to be
</div><div>&nbsp;where the spelled out word would have been.
<br><br>ta'a<br><br>Cf. http://www.loglan.org/Texts/nepo-neri-vizgoi.html<b=
r>and: =91Note the use of the Loglan left-quotation-mark <b>=AB</b>, pronou=
nced=20
/li/, of course. When we see this mark, or any other abbreviating mark,=20
we know that the writer is "punctuating" w's text. We can then expect w=20
to use punctuation marks instead of punctuation words, letterals instead
 of letter words, and numerals instead of number words throughout w's=20
composition.=92<br><br>I think it=92s interesting, but horrible. .e'o mi'o =
na'e zukte tai la'e do'i<br><br>Btw, I think that {=ABlu =85 li=92u=BB} loo=
ks better than {lu=AB =85 =BBli'u}. I think that =ABSwiss=BB looks better t=
han =BBGerman=AB, and =BBGerman=AB looks better than =BBSwedish=BB, but as =
you can see, different people do things in different ways and are used to d=
ifferent styles.<br><br>Regarding for Mr Christopher Plummer=92s hypothetic=
al performance: I think he could do {=ABlu =85 li=92u=BB} just fine, as Fre=
nch narrators apparently have no problems with {=AB Quotation quotation, sa=
ys the speaker, quotation quotation. =BB}. In some books, a single opening =
quotation marks the beginning of a whole block of dialogue, which ends with=
 a single closing quotation mark. In other books, there is an opening quota=
tion mark at the beginning of every single line of text, and just one closi=
ng mark at the end.<br><br>Many people are used to =91technical=92 (charact=
er-exact) quotation today, but that=92s not the only way to use quotation m=
arks. In Lojban, especially, we can take some liberties because, supposedly=
, real confusion cannot arise.<br><br>I think the style adopted for http://=
alis.lojban.org/ is good. (The only thing that slightly irritates me is tha=
t there are no dots at rising diphthongs, ie {ui} where I would have expect=
ed {.ui} and would utter a glottal stop.)<br><br>-iesk<br></div>

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