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Am 28.08.2012 23:04, schrieb iesk:
> Thank you, la selpa'i. I will investigate that. If Jorge and you agree on=
 it, I have no reasonable doubts.
>
> I guess that glottal-stopping is not wrong, though? I prefer it that way.

Inserting glottal stops between words is always allowed.

> Does not {la uiski ui} otherwise become /lau,iskiu,i/, with confusing dip=
hthongs? Is that desirable?

That cannot happen. The stress is on the first syllable of "uiski": {la=20
uiski ui}. If you leave out the spaces, you get {lau=C4=97skiui}, which can=
=20
only fragment into la uiski ui because:
1) "lau=C4=97ski" can't be a single word, because the stress is on UIski, a=
nd=20
the la falls off due to tosmabru
2) the trailing "ui" can not be part of uiski because again the stress=20
makes everything after the next syllable fall off. Also, the u of "ui"=20
cannot be part of uiski (*"uiskiu") because that's not a legal word=20
(remember that it would have to be pronounced [wiskiw], which is=20
illegal. And the i couldn't possibly be seperate either, because [i]=20
alone doesn't constitute a legal lojban word, as Lojban words can't=20
begin in a vowel.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

--=20
pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

^:i \jl /flr sen |ziu \su xn go kror
^:i \sym tfn /zu viw \xn jy ^jaiw

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