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<503D2DFB.10202@gmx.de> <55d4be2d-d8f0-47bf-a8f9-c449b79a7e0b@googlegroups.com> <503D3434.3080903@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <503D3434.3080903@gmx.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / For some reason, the accented letters got replaced by weird letter combinations. Her's the same text with capitals instead: Am 28.08.2012 23:12, schrieb selpa'i: > Am 28.08.2012 23:04, schrieb iesk: >> Thank you, la selpa'i. I will investigate that. If Jorge and you >> agree on it, I have no reasonable doubts. >> >> I guess that glottal-stopping is not wrong, though? I prefer it that >> way. > > Inserting glottal stops between words is always allowed. > >> Does not {la uiski ui} otherwise become /lau,iskiu,i/, with confusing >> diphthongs? Is that desirable? > > That cannot happen. The stress is on the first syllable of "uiski": > {la UIski ui}. If you leave out the spaces, you get {laUIskiui}, which > can only fragment into la UIski ui because: > 1) "laUIski" can't be a single word, because the stress is on UIski, > and the la falls off due to tosmabru > 2) the trailing "ui" can not be part of uiski because again the stress > makes everything after the next syllable fall off. Also, the u of "ui" > cannot be part of uiski (*"uiskiu") because that's not a legal word > (remember that it would have to be pronounced [wiskiw], which is > illegal. And the i couldn't possibly be seperate either, because [i] > alone doesn't constitute a legal lojban word, as Lojban words can't > begin in a vowel. > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > -- pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo ^:i \jl /flr sen |ziu \su xn go kror ^:i \sym tfn /zu viw \xn jy ^jaiw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.