Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:57604) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T6uC9-0002XD-VR; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:09:32 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf1108751qca.16 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:09:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=U595Cw71vreVFqsYmUOMmAh2p/f3KTNrgjzFGHjRb44=; b=wdyvqTUcn1DN4hVV0AwWcDEzT1hm5AsyJmr6oYpFVjxPnHWoUYTvKzC8fTh/xeb/SW kUNmHQtrFVsseXaXu7kpE+dQlgEZANyttODni90A3+ZdzrNN/YoP+R0eyK26VAmw5DsG Rrcau3VO10oC9DG/opbpEVMgKnqhZLc9qsjYuNAektOOdCEaTOcAjxHZ8oknGE2xkbnZ kWxPnsWz6mksLEvkEw6dRXEL8+IETUCQtjhotqYKHz80pP4brpWQ48riLmMqZ4SbE5WH DSnKwXDfhDhuG+erqAJiz6cKqR2Cr9ywsK0PIVgqPugYpT7ZUFuz7SHMzJuyeFZXS8UZ nsBw== Received: by 10.68.197.70 with SMTP id is6mr759584pbc.14.1346292555057; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:09:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.116.38 with SMTP id jt6ls7540243pbb.8.gmail; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.75.201 with SMTP id e9mr594641paw.22.1346292554502; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.75.201 with SMTP id e9mr594640paw.22.1346292554491; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nv4si258875pbc.2.2012.08.29.19.09.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T6uC1-0002X8-9h for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:09:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:09:13 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] carna, my turn. Message-ID: <20120830020913.GT28376@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20120826203514.GV10684@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <503D168A.9080504@gmx.de> <20120828202841.GJ25027@samsa> <20120829051013.GQ28376@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120829092536.GB26211@samsa> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120829092536.GB26211@samsa> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:25:36AM +0200, v4hn wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:10:14PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:28:41PM +0200, v4hn wrote: > > > The idea is that you can still disambiguate any sentence with > > > {carna}, if the set of sumtis referring to possible angular > > > distances and the set of sumtis referring to possible points in > > > space you can face are always disjunct. > > > > > > Is this concept already used somewhere in lojban? > > > > I believe there are other sumti that work something like that, but > > I'm not remembering any examples off the top of my head. > > > > Briefly poking at the gismu list, ragve, danfu, zanru. Others, I'm > > sure. > > None of these is really polymorphic as far as I can see. > > The only scene I can think of, that might cause an overlap, is the following: > > You sit in front of a number line and want to say > "I turn to face the 3". > > Could this theoretically be translated as {mi carna fo li ci}? No; that needs to be {me'o ci}. -Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.