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On 29 August 2012 23:48, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Hope" can be explicated in terms of WANT and HAPPEN and GOOD THING.

In this case, GOOD THING can be considered as whatever that satisfies
WANT. Koha could hope that a giant asteroid hit the Earth and destroy
everything on it, which would satisfy koha's want but not necessarily
serve others well.


mu'o

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