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And Rosta, On 31/08/2012 20:39:
> (There's no harm in marking the protasis and/or apodosis of a conditional with da'i, but da'i doesn't generate conditional semantics.)

I should qualify that: In regular logic-driven Lojban (and in the original design of Lojban), da'i doesn't generate conditional semantics. But in usage-driven Lojban, it seems that nowadays da'i does generate conditional semantics.

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