Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:48628) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T7aaa-0001bt-Rl; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:32 -0700 Received: by eaan13 with SMTP id n13sf1160006eaa.16 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uSeaVs7DF7dtL92uvM/mKSlwCIX+AguEPIyZr/QdA7E=; b=FhVsPcq6xaecOBUnGYxLjee0if7KGDtl6HLCeVmvj7fN+JRf2mgtoerMjel0Tebn+m NottdNahYgO8/bOo1DQyvuspZ/UH1AanFL2VGQ9vcQjUzEA8bnaJISV+F8LIxyqEUBHv yNqghRc/4jUHinJ6SOJ6CpXzawDF6LlfitT4H+3TvDNXdnt4QMcatxMk7fA6mu2U4KgM hB1IsbAX+4FbmM9yjbFqEQ/PH0ngMOOnuzACV+UHZLIw9u0MGOkU4d7pn4aFEzkEy6AK OPXXq7RoHlCdaNUs7NNeF3PvHHCoMScJ5wdHnI1EJsObYSDNdDxTFwYiX7qDCWwGui1h HnKg== Received: by 10.180.84.230 with SMTP id c6mr459715wiz.2.1346455517207; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.211.133 with SMTP id w5ls5184717weo.8.gmail; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.181.11.234 with SMTP id el10mr675388wid.2.1346455516365; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.181.11.234 with SMTP id el10mr675387wid.2.1346455516357; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f170.google.com (mail-we0-f170.google.com [74.125.82.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e5si432565wiw.0.2012.08.31.16.25.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.170; Received: by weyr1 with SMTP id r1so1716066wey.15 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.86.106 with SMTP id o10mr7500568wiz.22.1346455516253; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (87-194-76-177.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.76.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w7sm3611277wiz.0.2012.08.31.16.25.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <504147D9.7070900@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2012 00:25:13 +0100 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Revising mu'ei and CAhA once again. Possible worlds. References: <502A81EB.2000005@gmail.com> <502A9A2C.20606@gmail.com> <55e70b7d-e835-423b-8557-8ae88b88a4e2@googlegroups.com> <504112FA.4010001@gmail.com> <1346454346.99385.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1346454346.99385.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / John E Clifford, On 01/09/2012 00:05: > Using {da'i} with truth-functional connectives is, of course, > dissonant, since a {da'i} sentence has no truth value. The propositional content of a da'i sentence does have a truth-value, and may contain truth-functional connectives. But the speaker is making no claim about what that truth value is. This holds not just for da'i but for most illocutionary UI. --And. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.