Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:57232) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T7mkK-0007Vb-5Q; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 05:24:29 -0700 Received: by weyu3 with SMTP id u3sf1311962wey.16 for ; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 05:24:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=30+GuuLMa7mDB/Pi2j2FSZ+I/QLY6hjFCNEqTkCnb/k=; b=LtEt5l86UGswmsl9R4p/58E/cbRBIbUXbfY4PlVMWFOPvTU5s6i4/QJEqi11mHqhwu hGBB2zi15B+boN3WgsFeyQ7uNcpgu1OhHStm7Nxurq0Eo+1bHljGBqqfGT1IwO22cJKp wEsayorbazfQ/+RvxRX/tubot4AqpGM6dpABdYZ5Pws4twunFikw6mMKf+TZlLYVbBoO iWQ6ZElFbBMkOlbBNM9qvw+D70OpYU67avNSAOLCvs2Bm2c4KM5vo5hcbC6Iyt0dnCXk KfjImNZiW727DPgJ79XrUrhr5VYAoRfBnwZ6DJF7MmgLOo+9nHW7qUwKci8EpAP0lcYO QN8A== Received: by 10.180.101.197 with SMTP id fi5mr597352wib.3.1346502248418; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 05:24:08 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.143.147 with SMTP id l19ls5528528wej.4.gmail; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 05:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.24.135 with SMTP id u7mr918020wif.3.1346502247445; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 05:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.24.135 with SMTP id u7mr918019wif.3.1346502247434; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 05:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id cd1si779465wib.1.2012.09.01.05.24.07; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 05:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Sep 2012 12:24:07 -0000 Received: from p57A08C0E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.140.14] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 01 Sep 2012 14:24:07 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/LlGQksqrLlJYqvDe/5KYalQMrm26w/6lR8PCOdm voQad32uJOx4Fa Message-ID: <5041FE65.9030902@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2012 14:24:05 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Revising mu'ei and CAhA once again. Possible worlds. References: <502A81EB.2000005@gmail.com> <502A9A2C.20606@gmail.com> <55e70b7d-e835-423b-8557-8ae88b88a4e2@googlegroups.com> <504112FA.4010001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Am 01.09.2012 08:18, schrieb la gleki: > I don't see much difference. Who counts over possible worlds? The > speaker. Does {romu'ei} mean really every possible world? I think it > refers to all the possible worlds that the speaker has in mind. Well, since mu'ei is ROI, it only refers to PA worlds in which the tagged event is true. Since the speaker chooses the zo'e, it does indeed refer to worlds that the speaker chooses to include. However, if the zo'e is very far from what the audience might expect, you should probably indicate that explicitly. Still, you are technically right. mi do ro mu'ei lo du'u mi .e do zasti cu prami I love you in every possible world in which you and I exist.(which is quite an exaggeration, but has a nice poetic effect) mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo ^:i \jl /flr sen |ziu \su xn go kror ^:i \sym tfn /zu viw \xn jy ^jaiw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.