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To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: <98e7bb37-f01b-44ea-8a96-82ffc663485e@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.91.224 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-6906265-1542317620-1346521443=:10638" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ---6906265-1542317620-1346521443=:10638 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good move!=A0 Semantic primitives play no significant role in Lojban and, i= f the point of all this is to get to a primitive list of attitudes, then it= is a misguided project from a Lojbanic point of view. ________________________________ From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20 Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Is there any real diffrence between hope (.a'o) a= nd desire (.au)? =20 On Saturday, September 1, 2012 8:17:25 PM UTC+4, pafcribe wrote: good point.=A0 If au and ai both have pretty much exact bridi equivalents, = and those bridi have pretty much exact english equivalents it doesn't seem = like we're necessarily talking about a lojban question any more.=A0 More li= ke a psychology question, which is certainly still interesting to listen to= :) I think this topic is really not about lojban. May be about semantic prims but definitely i'll never stop using {.a'o} On Sep 1, 2012 11:26 AM, "la .lindar." wrote: > >.a'o isn't kanpe je djica, it'n pacna. Has everybody forgotten about pacna= ? >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. >>To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ msg= /lojban/-/jN945nypTh0J. >>To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+un...@ googlegroups.= com. >>For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. >> >> --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/OICjZI-uyHoJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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Good move!=   Semantic primitives play no significant role in Lojban and, if the p= oint of all this is to get to a primitive list of attitudes, then it is a m= isguided project from a Lojbanic point of view.


From:<= /b> la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [lojba= n] Re: Is there any real diffrence between hope (.a'o) and desire (.au)?


On Saturday, September 1, 2012 8:17:25 PM= UTC+4, pafcribe wrote:
On Sep 1, 2012 11:26 AM, "la .linda= r." <lindar...@gmail.com> wrote:
.a'o isn't kanpe je djica, it'n pacna. Has everybody forgotten about pacna?=

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