Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:46950) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T8GgG-0004yP-15; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:22:14 -0700 Received: by qadz32 with SMTP id z32sf3032221qad.16 for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:21:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=VF/IpCuiWCcjtywI8n6zyH/dDXO0HebmWmCxfovfOos=; b=UE0jr+55rNuE2dsvlLeefZc75OB2aFj5LDSWmCTdFwqFdNGScwAZyz0BmwChhZSawh Vzi3Kf2ABv/1YqcaMK5rW0EtbEXu4wes1SY/ntaiSmxoEkYkIO/Fby18GDfjCS1ozn1E /oTcI+rvnNo/dELbVHr35vqjDC4ELy5bvNm5uM0Pt0wDNknc4TwdOFs7Mn1qkRJLAgMt Ik0XLADLKTJ1qDtkLnnF9Izdb/mmpBWvWghAjeFJ8A8qT53oa8zI/SfAEM2BhlXq9Bc2 OgauXHq4erXcdhSduPyewA+dQIhUvGVt2gt0jl6QKXWVnYSfHCLhtPHU4Qx6alpGtduK TCjw== Received: by 10.50.196.131 with SMTP id im3mr1845972igc.6.1346617317157; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:21:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.1.90 with SMTP id 26ls9405165ibe.4.gmail; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.90.4 with SMTP id i4mr6961310icm.19.1346617316525; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.90.4 with SMTP id i4mr6961308icm.19.1346617316512; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iy0-f173.google.com (mail-iy0-f173.google.com [209.85.210.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dd6si2778032igc.0.2012.09.02.13.21.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.173; Received: by iakx26 with SMTP id x26so8910773iak.32 for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.181.200 with SMTP id dy8mr8977914igc.36.1346617316334; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:21:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.25.8 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 13:21:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8d3fb774-f4ff-4b86-afa2-df153de2f633@googlegroups.com> <10cd53d6-5aa9-40be-a1f9-2f5ad3115159@googlegroups.com> <1f920c6f-c5f2-49a9-a0cb-dd9779a70271@googlegroups.com> <98e7bb37-f01b-44ea-8a96-82ffc663485e@googlegroups.com> <1346521443.10638.YahooMailNeo@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4616037b-64b1-4b72-a97a-c28c14e837ba@googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 16:21:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Is there any real diffrence between hope (.a'o) and desire (.au)? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340983c9dd6804c8bdc663 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae9340983c9dd6804c8bdc663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lojban isn't meant to be based on semantic primes, but semantic primes are useful in discussing the meaning of the words, just as with any other language. That's the whole point of NSM. stevo On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:07 PM, la .lindar. wrote: > Who will discuss semantics primes if not us? Any forum you are aware of? >> I'm afraid they are discussed nowhere. >> > > Guaspi? Any other conlang group? University level linguistics > courses? Gismu aren't primes, the set of UI aren't meant to be primes, and > nothing in the language is meant to be the most basic set of anything. We > *really* need to hammer that into everybody and start adopting a policy of > using what's there instead of reinventing the wheel. Look, and I mean > seriously and earnestly look, for a solution using what is already > available to you. If it isn't a problem, don't fix it, and if you > absolutely are completely unable to do it with the current grammar, we'll > talk then. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/FFNO8To9DIUJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --14dae9340983c9dd6804c8bdc663 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lojban isn't meant to be based on semantic primes, but semantic primes = are useful in discussing the meaning of the words, just as with any other l= anguage. That's the whole point of NSM.=A0

stevo

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:07 PM, la .lindar. = <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:
Who will dis= cuss semantics primes if not us? Any forum you are aware of? I'm afraid= they are discussed nowhere.

Guaspi? Any other conlang group? Uni= versity level linguistics courses?=A0Gismu aren't primes, the set of UI= aren't meant to be primes, and nothing in the language is meant to be = the most basic set of anything.=A0We *really* need to hammer that into ever= ybody and start adopting a policy of using what's there instead of rein= venting the wheel. Look, and I mean seriously and earnestly look, for a sol= ution using what is already available to you. If it isn't a problem, do= n't fix it, and if you absolutely are completely unable to do it with t= he current grammar, we'll talk then.=A0

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