Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:44758) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T8uGB-0006Mg-FT; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:37:57 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf6659860qca.16 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:37:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ek8+TvxqOXNE/PeEFaSIgjatljvwXP4Ld2IRu9md+yw=; b=bsPpwb++Wzge4cK67QoEOPw5qlmx0zvkIwui2WDUV9v4DNGUPfDexC6Vwn3fWfKf0C ZfBK+RMR0s4Kuq4SLFAcKqLY+YckQWBrG2EJv9p6oTyhlvVIWmKkuc2CeMlm3esIjJ3S 11DHqkke6f/OfS8fLWTHupSyd0HAPQn+dpRfdxme92kgSjhwd64p1TZ9oIio3mJ1lQax c3e3xX7gqasXc7GpYx040BJ7kiqmCEPKnTJt/dH/QE2LhpnE8w1wJK1U8sPqNp1EFJAR ax4LDkDIEtPk0q6tFyvrY2nLs++NthHjeOHGuo1nUth1S6D/q0xzU93p33FkWfPevIYK USyg== Received: by 10.68.244.73 with SMTP id xe9mr3272827pbc.10.1346769460332; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.141.133 with SMTP id ro5ls22742181pbb.1.gmail; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.169.17 with SMTP id aa17mr5836608vec.29.1346769459093; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.169.17 with SMTP id aa17mr5836607vec.29.1346769459070; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l5si1332714vdg.1.2012.09.04.07.37.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.54; Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so8759942vbm.13 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.111 with SMTP id k15mr11461611vdg.23.1346769458806; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 07:37:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.178.106 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 07:37:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5143993c-029d-4313-898c-cdb641e3ceb4@googlegroups.com> References: <5143993c-029d-4313-898c-cdb641e3ceb4@googlegroups.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:37:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A bug in jboske with FA? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d01fc2fbeb004c8e133f8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf307d01fc2fbeb004c8e133f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bug or feature? To be honest, it would be a pretty neat hack to be able to say {.i mi fi do cusku lu coi .i do melbi} without the {fe} after {cusku}. This is clearly due to the rule mandating that after the selbri, the numbered place counting begins at two, even if there are no bridi-head sumti. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o On 3 September 2012 12:40, la gleki wrote: > According to http://dag.github.com/cll/9/3/ , "What if some sumti have FA > tags and others do not? The rule is that after a FA-tagged sumti, any sum= ti > following it occupy the places numerically succeeding it, subject to the > proviso that an already-filled place is skipped:" > > Now let's open jboski and enter two jufra. > > klama fi lo zarci lo zdani > > [1<<2*klama**go-ing*>>2 (3*[klama3 (origin(s)) > :] **fi** * *lo**any/some* *zarci**trading place(s)*)3 (4*[klama4 (route(= s)) > :] **lo**any/some* *zdani**home(s)*)4]1 > > [1=AB2*klama* *go-ing*=BB2 (3*[klama3 (origin(s)) :] **fi* ***lo* *any/so= me* * > zarci* *trading place(s)*)3 (4*[klama4 (route(s)) :] **lo* *any/some* * > zdani* *home(s)*)4]1 > > Well, ok. But now let's enter > > fi lo zarci cu klama lo zdani > > and we get > > > [1(2*[klama3 (origin(s)) > :] **fi** * *lo**any/some* *zarci**trading place(s)*)2*cu**is/does* <<3*k= lama**go-ing*>>3 (4*[klama2 (destination(s)) > :] **lo**any/some* *zdani**home(s)*)4]1 > > [1(2*[klama3 (origin(s)) :] **fi* ***lo* *any/some* *zarci* *trading > place(s)*)2 *cu* *is/does* =AB3*klama* *go-ing*=BB3 (4*[klama2 > (destination(s)) :] **lo* *any/some* *zdani**home(s)*)4]1 > > > lo zdani magically turned from klama4 to klama2? > > Are there any bug-free parsers? > Are there any plans on a glossing camxes or at least a parser that can > show the hierarchy inside any jufra? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/ljKw6MjYGX4J. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --20cf307d01fc2fbeb004c8e133f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bug or feature?
To be honest, it would be a pretty neat hack to be able= to say {.i mi fi do cusku lu coi .i do melbi} without the {fe} after {cusk= u}.
This is clearly due to the rule mandating that after the selb= ri, the numbered place counting begins at two, even if there are no bridi-h= ead sumti.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 3 September 2012 12:40, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@g= mail.com> wrote:
According to http://dag.github.com/cll/9/3/ , "Wh= at if some sumti have FA tags and others do not? The rule is that after a F= A-tagged sumti, any sumti following it occupy the places numerically succee= ding it, subject to the proviso that an already-filled place is skipped:&qu= ot;

Now let's open jboski and enter two jufra.

klama fi lo zarci lo zdani

[1<<2klama go-ing>>2 (3<= u>[klama3 (origin(s)) :] fi lo any/some zarci trading place(s))3<= /font> (4[klama4 (route(s)) :] lo any/some zdani home(s))4]1 [1=AB= 2klama=A0go-ing= =BB2=A0(3[k= lama3 (origin(s)) :]=A0fi=A0= lo=A0any/some=A0zarci=A0trading place(s))3= =A0(4[klama4 (route(s)) :]=A0lo=A0any/some=A0zdani=A0home(s))4]1=A0

Well, ok. But now let's enter

<= /div>
fi lo zarci cu klama lo zdani

and we= get=A0

[1(2[=
klama3 (origin(s))
:] fi
  lo
any/some zarci
trading place(s))2<=
/font>
cu
is/does <<3klama
go-ing>>3 (4<=
u>[klama2 (destination(s))
:] lo
any/some zdani
home(s))4]1
[1(2[klama3 (origin(s)) :]=A0= fi=A0loany/some=A0z= arci=A0trading place(s))2=A0cu=A0is/does=A0=AB3klama= =A0go-ing=BB3=A0(4[klama2 (destination(s)) :]=A0lo=A0any/some=A0zdanihome(s))4]1=A0


lo zdani magically turned from kla= ma4 to klama2?

Are there any bug-free parsers?
Are there any plans on a glossing camxes or at least a parser that c= an show=A0the hierarchy inside any jufra?

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