Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:46773) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T9GUf-0003mG-TI; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:22:21 -0700 Received: by iadx2 with SMTP id x2sf571506iad.16 for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:22:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-yahoo-newman-id:x-yahoo-newman-property :x-ymail-osg:x-yahoo-smtp:references:in-reply-to :x-apple-yahoo-original-message-folder:mime-version:message-id :x-mailer:from:x-apple-yahoo-replied-msgid:subject:date:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=USJfsFyubDTQU0m++TDIKIhuMKUrOjV8EnF2UIW3tt8=; b=mfQEw/LuEC3202PhMlxnVv/01H92sWwpII+PTf3NDE0SM8vsrvHNS15mI2nmVnjPOg 5rCtdNZmYWjyBFMVTb01y2Pv2MNNo7bzHsOQHY9FfHQPj5DaKF1ybxS7hc81CaOaJYvo i+3lnG/YNklHznAqXc2giI2u2fgRLVHIBG5yx0HMgoA7o+6b8xiu+sEMs+9HRh76NbWC WZjCETXUoKhXZQTl466OYJ0OIIJlCaHQDUPRHu4niQhrWxP4HsHvZx1txfjI7bc92RvQ gakEBoYHwu4U60A2MlQoi3QopFHwGwffZuCsbvGnvInQL2zGPdBl1t2Tsc1GfrgxZWnQ pS8Q== Received: by 10.50.207.101 with SMTP id lv5mr6880342igc.5.1346854925549; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:22:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.214.34 with SMTP id nx2ls911869igc.1.gmail; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.157.5 with SMTP id b5mr7218331icx.8.1346854924389; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.157.5 with SMTP id b5mr7218330icx.8.1346854924377; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nm1-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com. [98.138.91.36]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id u5si635992igw.3.2012.09.05.07.22.04; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.138.91.36 as permitted sender) client-ip=98.138.91.36; Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 14:22:04 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.167] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 14:22:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 14:22:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 117977.55776.bm@omp1023.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22638 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2012 14:22:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: l8DkYtAVM1noGhyIfnmGdNa4yJ24.W36tisTI7ALFX..mRQ HVHmR9UkFWtD6qd.4OwzGj41CBalb_0g8T4X.L7uoEuMAHnvGjCuLCebTUPm QS4w.QfCPJRwskuFKGfe7rDSLnD7dkj7Y9BAlw0u3QxLSBU2Twqq5qECYiRp PzYBv8fU9Qee2MM3I4OcKIscMAwd4K2gWZxS3AKdJEcqNJsLOObM.5tcnKY3 MhadyXC_7ivXjUXr_juRtcF23AUyQ0SJLueCkJodxLQuNg74h_oQSoh1j2gT RzTcSJNTtFCW2CdIyE1ZKy6YrKMF_X9eU2EKY2wnet_DGaygGFIpURzVqVR. mSDQrvCZooGTJ3jZg.beTy1JvUMp03zQpfKK1_m.BrHu35DnMA792qX1pqDF DrN6QbZOMS4j.3xb7hvfsflRH1o_uHMotwmJOCMl0hT.KsnsA_qNxJFun_qr yVKO1oDBlRc9bYjD02BCvTld_JQUvegZpq27AtapUDom8GsLtAtbGwQSJ5z1 5fBZDdW6xETqvUv.gqK7FMg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: xvGyF4GswBCIFKGaxf5wSjlg3RF108g- Received: from [192.168.1.64] (kali9putra@99.92.108.194 with xymcookie) by smtp110-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Sep 2012 07:22:03 -0700 PDT References: In-Reply-To: X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: AAlojbanery Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8G4) Message-Id: <6DDE191D-5818-43F6-93A2-18087533A68F@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8G4) From: "John E. Clifford" X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 2_0_0_48_16276189_AB/di2IAAFIrUEcDAQiqtxH4Zng Subject: Re: [lojban] Semantics and Pragmatics with jboske ? Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:43:34 -0500 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.138.91.36 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / I assume you mean "Paul buys a car/ Ferrari from John" Sent from my iPad On Sep 5, 2012, at 2:45 AM, Escape Landsome wrote: > Dear all, > > since jboske does the syntax job correctly (or should), has anyone > designed a way to make it carry semantic or pragmatic implications ? > > That is, the same thing as the following for English : > > (1) John sells a car to Paul > (2) Paul buys John a car > ===> (1) and (2) are compatible (equivalent, indeed!) > > (2') Paul buys John a Ferrari > ===> (1) and (2') are compatible, in this case (2') would be more specific > > and so on... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.