Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:45822) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T9gXB-0003uP-KO; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:10:38 -0700 Received: by vcbfl13 with SMTP id fl13sf1697057vcb.16 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:10:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Jav/P+J6JOUdoTNzmCU9f+D5OQ46e0wG2wT3VXufVOo=; b=WhPqZs3eYddOWbmXeW/CZx31wNq/FS1HGyG+JD7FwrkHelJH0kDnD99y76qwH18f4f GVvMRNWuDHfAgYUdbYYWfyNxkE4ftWO7opc3eMnX6SU7zH94SwA2QIkKOfi/QX3n3Jzi 2DxvotQkEJ+DTxv/UksoiWCx4XVqx3a4id5dzMBBaAZVKoRCaJ/F7Dy+1jg0MuCOYEMt esLsledDrrDw7Xlj4rHO7YiWCvx7ahW7OPRcXoB/umvtinUoJiDIPtMT0xR4Gl2YGhH/ +w/BuKWi4+kMMG142EUERDBDe+pk2pbUh08PxJ7tNzBuperY/np5ly1Q/1b19sfBiQpf KEQw== Received: by 10.52.99.8 with SMTP id em8mr555557vdb.16.1346955026842; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:10:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.177.106 with SMTP id cp10ls1073347vdc.2.gmail; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.33.34 with SMTP id o2mr557243vdi.12.1346955026077; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:10:25 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <42377605-739f-4350-a3c6-6f398a1f4275@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1346349196.3704.20.camel@XPS> <5205bc46-a78f-4366-b041-2af2d2785855@googlegroups.com> <5b8704f5-7c2f-4977-b704-26d827d7547d@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Best free offline Android apps for learning Lojban? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_348_31079826.1346955025581" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_348_31079826.1346955025581 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 7:08:59 PM UTC+4, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > > I'm an Android developer in my day job these days, so I may take a > look at this. Vocabulary is my main thing to learn to improve. Knowing > the grammar and looking up 3/4s of the words in a sentence is hardly > knowing Lojban. > I'm not sure how complex memrise would be to clone, though. Are the > materials (ie. the Lojban corpus data) available, at least? How > complex are the logic for displaying and testing, and the visuals? > Just a simple free opens-source quiz application syncing back to your dropbox folder would be worth using. Lojban and any other language corpus data are available for exporting to text files. > > I suppose I should look into using memrise online first and find out. > > Braden > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 2:22 AM, la gleki > > wrote: > > > > > > On Saturday, September 1, 2012 1:27:21 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote: > >> > >> Google alerts just showed me this: > >> > >> lojban learn word - Android Apps on Google Play > >> > >> Looks like .iocikun. listened to Lindar. > > > > > > Unfortunately it's no better than Anki. You might cheat saying that you > know > > any given word. > > In contrast to that Memrise really tests your language proficiency. > > Just a simple flashcard app with multiple choices for every answer would > be > > enough before memrise for android arrives. > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > >>> > >>> A little bit of research and I found a user-made BETA android memrise > >>> app, which you can learn more about here: http://memrise.anty.info/ I > have > >>> /no idea/ how good it is, I have not looked into it at all myself, > except to > >>> find it. > >>> > >>> There is also mention by Memrise's mobile developer that they have > plans > >>> to make an android app themselves at some point, but they give > absolutely no > >>> details: http://www.memrise.com/thread/489048/#c19958 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Jonathan Jones > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:25 AM, la gleki > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2012 9:49:32 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2012 8:50:19 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Oh, derp. > >>>>>>> Hmm... make one? Get the Japanese person to make one? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The version of memrise for iOS is exactly what I need. It can run > >>>>>> offline. But > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Oh, the message got cut off. > >>>>> This "But" looks like {ku'i co'e} where {co'e} means "I don't like > iOS" > >>>>> zo'o > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Actually, my assumption was "... I don't have an iProduct." That > happens > >>>> to be my reason as well, although I'll admit the reason for /that/ is > >>>> because I don't like Apple Co. and it's elitist overpriced > consumables. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > >>>> > >>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > >>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > >>> > >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > >>> (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 7:08:59 PM UTC+4, Braden Shepherdson = wrote:
I'm an Android developer= in my day job these days, so I may take a
look at this. Vocabulary is my main thing to learn to improve. Knowing
the grammar and looking up 3/4s of the words in a sentence is hardly
knowing Lojban.  

I'm not sure how complex memrise would be to clone, though. Are the
materials (ie. the Lojban corpus data) available, at least? How
complex are the logic for displaying and testing, and the visuals?

Just a simple free opens-source quiz a= pplication syncing back to your dropbox folder would be worth using.
L= ojban and any other language corpus data are available for exporting to tex= t files.

 <= /div>

I suppose I should look into using memrise online first and find out.

Braden

On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 2:22 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.co= m> wrote:
>
>
> On Saturday, September 1, 2012 1:27:21 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
>>
>> Google alerts just showed me this:
>>
>> lojban learn word - Android Apps on Google Play
>>
>> Looks like .iocikun. listened to Lindar.
>
>
> Unfortunately it's no better than Anki. You might cheat saying tha= t you know
> any given word.
> In contrast to that Memrise  really tests your language profi= ciency.
> Just a simple flashcard app with multiple choices for every answer= would be
> enough before memrise for android arrives.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jonathan Jones <eye...= @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A little bit of research and I found a user-made BETA andr= oid memrise
>>> app, which you can learn more about here: http://memrise.anty.info/ I hav= e
>>> /no idea/ how good it is, I have not looked into it at all= myself, except to
>>> find it.
>>>
>>> There is also mention by Memrise's mobile developer that t= hey have plans
>>> to make an android app themselves at some point, but they = give absolutely no
>>> details: http://www.memrise.com/thread/489048/#c19958=
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Jonathan Jones <ey= e...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:25 AM, la gleki <glek= i.is...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2012 9:49:32 AM UTC+4, la gl= eki wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2012 8:50:19 AM UTC+4, l= a .lindar. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, derp.
>>>>>>> Hmm... make one? Get the Japanese person t= o make one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The version of memrise for iOS is exactly what= I need. It can run
>>>>>> offline. But
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, the message got cut off.
>>>>> This "But" looks like {ku'i co'e} where {co'e} mea= ns "I don't like iOS"
>>>>> zo'o
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, my assumption was "... I don't have an iProd= uct." That happens
>>>> to be my reason as well, although I'll admit the reaso= n for /that/ is
>>>> because I don't like Apple Co. and it's elitist overpr= iced consumables.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>>>
>>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi= patfu do zo'o
>>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>>
>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pat= fu do zo'o
>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>
>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o
>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>>
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