Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:48290) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T9lfg-0006Wr-0b; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:39:55 -0700 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14sf641328wib.16 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:39:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=40gb++M7lgCuDYKgz5JdFPvzvb4RwCpX+hLe6mj9Mcc=; b=xDbHIiThz/mxjUWtwYjMTZUdzvNtSj7jIMZ0JT925ueSvs7LZ6ikbkFdmO5IRwcldT HiCLYORlT5a3k6BVihz784JjEVB3cI9xBEzEDGnSqKbrbM8LPHxVxvrTtlPw/AkZhbBH jReMAXKjqN7zrFeX9C3F+FeD0OnMER1S7bh6o6gBkMUtimBjkSDp/gJ/+kykJ/Jsl3Wv he5X3GO/W3Zu5ip9j0CfVWmaVXJea9BOtAQY3v0aMnxZ/QZUFTxkdRoduoThHU/whVoC fmZdkIR5KUzpeg/YVUd4melE6Mt03jcCpmHJBHmo2s5snjcqX4+W8l15wSrj3xzJOODy 22ng== Received: by 10.205.134.132 with SMTP id ic4mr100265bkc.28.1346974771619; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:39:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.13.17 with SMTP id z17ls15605bkz.5.gmail; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr374505bks.3.1346974770542; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr374504bks.3.1346974770495; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e23si816554bks.0.2012.09.06.16.39.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.180; Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so1398908lbo.11 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.106.139 with SMTP id gu11mr3392764lab.57.1346974770028; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.40.71 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:39:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9d5f25f5-3894-4fd9-835d-004dd8fafd02@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 17:39:29 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Dscript + Lojban ??? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04083aa1b060e904c911003b X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04083aa1b060e904c911003b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Jacob Errington wrote: > > > On 6 September 2012 18:44, la .lindar. wrote: > >> We only have words to support hex and lower. You're welcome to do >> anything you'd like, but the official writing system shall remain Roman. >> > > Strictly speaking, there is no official writing system. Any writing system > that can unambiguously refer to each of lojban's sounds is valid, but none > is official. The Roman writing system, albeit the most widespread and de > facto official script, is not *technically* official. > > Sorry to pick nits here, but I don't like seeing anyone being mislead, > even those who are unlikely to even really learn much lojban. > Um, you happen to be wrong on this one. The Lojban orthography which uses the Roman script /is/ the official one, both "technically" and in reality. It is not merely the "de facto" one. > .i mi'e la tsani mu'o > > >> >> (Sorry if I seem curt, but you are by no means the first person to come >> along and want to adopt a writing system for Lojban. We get one of you >> every couple of months and they never stick around.) >> >> http://youtube.com/user/rogicallanguagegroup/ Check out the video >> lessons if you want to start learning right away. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/Y6pXHvIObvQJ. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Jacob Errington = <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:


On 6 September 2012 18= :44, la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> We only have words to support hex and lower. You're welcome to do anyth= ing you'd like, but the official writing system shall remain Roman.=A0<= br>

Strictly speaking, there is no of= ficial writing system. Any writing system that can unambiguously refer to e= ach of lojban's sounds is valid, but none is official. The Roman writin= g system, albeit the most widespread and de facto official script, is not *= technically* official.

Sorry to pick nits here, but I don't like seeing an= yone being mislead, even those who are unlikely to even really learn much l= ojban.

Um, you happen to be wrong on this = one. The Lojban orthography which uses the Roman script /is/ the official o= ne, both "technically" and in reality. It is not merely the "= ;de facto" one.
=A0
.i mi'e la tsani mu'o
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(Sorry if I seem curt, but you are by no means the first person to come alo= ng and want to adopt a writing system for Lojban. We get one of you every c= ouple of months and they never stick around.)

http://youtube.com/user/rogicallanguagegroup/ Check out the video less= ons if you want to start learning right away.

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