Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:47903) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T9mPE-0006qK-Bc; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:26:54 -0700 Received: by yenq11 with SMTP id q11sf1877794yen.16 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:26:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5c6mak8uGXfND9x/eBK0bkWDW0FATGBlO0hC31cdHpU=; b=FhY3dWoVKlJEIpqcmld701Z8cRT0Ggxn4SeKPRGQvLUhStTAXcPZS6/bYOOwnNUgDM 6JBLpR18ng2FoQMKhc4+0Jh3UKy1ddmOHjg5zMw+unUT+/XKl1HIcIc+7dFJUglXurav N4Japr/f65sA290n0uGmi/aC27FfRk1MF0N43/WaocvlwWLaWkbN43L7q0/g3WYErJ4r OhgvAwASyyVXWAtrxxkYptUwBAIvFxBNnWO85IDM/21153EL44vI3Yo7GoCZvRVgWi2W jDdxWGAd293+KoBUYqa49SLxi8jSBPTtzPbHMsabNOFQusF46X1fkWz/qpg8tVB7Ffkn yikg== Received: by 10.182.86.130 with SMTP id p2mr254999obz.7.1346977597673; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:26:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.18.234 with SMTP id z10ls41496obd.7.gmail; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.133.100 with SMTP id pb4mr1557132veb.6.1346977596977; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.133.100 with SMTP id pb4mr1557130veb.6.1346977596962; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f48.google.com (mail-vb0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ef10si779520vdb.3.2012.09.06.17.26.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.48; Received: by mail-vb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id e21so2032168vbm.7 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.0.82 with SMTP id 18mr5537512vec.0.1346977596728; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:26:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.178.106 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 17:26:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9d5f25f5-3894-4fd9-835d-004dd8fafd02@googlegroups.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:26:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Dscript + Lojban ??? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b33d3462c66c604c911a995 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b33d3462c66c604c911a995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Huh weird. I'm trying to find out where I might have gotten the notion initially, but I can't seem to find it. Oh well. On 6 September 2012 19:39, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Jacob Errington wrote: > >> >> >> On 6 September 2012 18:44, la .lindar. wrote: >> >>> We only have words to support hex and lower. You're welcome to do >>> anything you'd like, but the official writing system shall remain Roman. >>> >> >> Strictly speaking, there is no official writing system. Any writing >> system that can unambiguously refer to each of lojban's sounds is valid, >> but none is official. The Roman writing system, albeit the most widespread >> and de facto official script, is not *technically* official. >> >> Sorry to pick nits here, but I don't like seeing anyone being mislead, >> even those who are unlikely to even really learn much lojban. >> > > Um, you happen to be wrong on this one. The Lojban orthography which uses > the Roman script /is/ the official one, both "technically" and in reality. > It is not merely the "de facto" one. > > >> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o >> >> >>> >>> (Sorry if I seem curt, but you are by no means the first person to come >>> along and want to adopt a writing system for Lojban. We get one of you >>> every couple of months and they never stick around.) >>> >>> http://youtube.com/user/rogicallanguagegroup/ Check out the video >>> lessons if you want to start learning right away. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/Y6pXHvIObvQJ. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --047d7b33d3462c66c604c911a995 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Huh weird. I'm trying to find out where I might have gotten the notion = initially, but I can't seem to find it. Oh well.

On 6 September 2012 19:39, Jonathan Jones <= ;eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:


On 6 September 2012 18:44, la .lind= ar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:
We only have words to support hex and lower. You're welcome to do anyth= ing you'd like, but the official writing system shall remain Roman.=A0<= br>

Strictly speaking, there is no of= ficial writing system. Any writing system that can unambiguously refer to e= ach of lojban's sounds is valid, but none is official. The Roman writin= g system, albeit the most widespread and de facto official script, is not *= technically* official.

Sorry to pick nits here, but I don't like seeing an= yone being mislead, even those who are unlikely to even really learn much l= ojban.

Um, you happen to be wrong on= this one. The Lojban orthography which uses the Roman script /is/ the offi= cial one, both "technically" and in reality. It is not merely the= "de facto" one.
=A0
.i mi'e la tsani mu'o
=A0

(Sorry if I seem curt, but you are by no means the first person to come alo= ng and want to adopt a writing system for Lojban. We get one of you every c= ouple of months and they never stick around.)

http://youtube.com/user/rogicallanguagegroup/ Check out the video less= ons if you want to start learning right away.

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