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[98.139.91.87]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id vw9si2548143pbc.2.2012.09.07.08.58.00; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.91.87 as permitted sender) client-ip=98.139.91.87; Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm17.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2012 15:58:00 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2012 15:58:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2012 15:58:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 713919.79622.bm@omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 5107 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2012 15:57:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 41d2rXIVM1l5N.G9uhEKUNJb2Sg9NF3.MBpZHm8DsBh5m_s ksMz1AwBqxXNpmXwz6P9pzTucvLxILMXey1bH_120bAT5pA5fofLVM8mHDm8 Umf4qedGYhEnLxYNCHlUYTM4v7YzLqqToLt3SRF9ymiSEye9NFvLVUlKPdxv 0WMvcvu0XxPOYMcHLUWpc54koSdrC5AhjO_YqGkGlyzLlGMOyPaCMGZAmKf1 6DzhJ8VHabydIqfql9CNnhG6K102X1uY.pB3pb_FRgabG0uzskK53If7uYu. 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To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: <54aebc02-76a5-40ed-a4a2-f239c4b8ea01@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.91.87 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-420974808-1427589427-1347033479=:57792" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ---420974808-1427589427-1347033479=:57792 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks.=A0 We appreciate your efforts and welcome your script for its aesth= etic -- and perhaps eventually practical -- value.=A0 If we seem a little t= ouchy, it is -- as someone has noted -- that conlangs are liable to be appr= oached by conglyphers whose interest is mainly in seeing their glyphery in = use, not in the language they are offering it to, and who, consequently, do= n't stick around long.=A0 As a practical matter, I would offer your glypher= y to a variety of conlangs -- always as an interesting flourish, not as a c= ompelling replacement, as most conlangs rather like that sort of thing (it = is a part -- not really even peripheral -- of coning).=A0=20 BTW, why do you skip the historically and mathematically significant base 6= 0 system (covered by the 100, I suppose)? ________________________________ From: vasten To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20 Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:46 PM Subject: [lojban] Re: Dscript + Lojban ??? =20 really? ok well... please judge me based on merit as opposed to prejudice. Dscript is not some little "font", i have put a decade into it, and im not = joking around when I say I am interested in applying to Lojban. Lojban is the first I have approached, been thinking long and hard about wh= ether to tie myself to a langauge, and if so which one. (tie in the sense t= hat i would have to invest alot fo my time, dscript of course will always w= ork for any alphabet) On Friday, September 7, 2012 6:44:52 AM UTC+8, la .lindar. wrote: We only have words to support hex and lower. You're welcome to do anything = you'd like, but the official writing system shall remain Roman. We have a n= umber of alternate scripts already, so perhaps look at how those have been = done? As long as you understand that we're not going to adopt your script a= nd likely nobody will help you because we have a lot of other stuff to do y= ou're welcome to do whatever you'd like. Post examples when it's done as it= looks rather interesting. >(Sorry if I seem curt, but you are by no means the first person to come al= ong and want to adopt a writing system for Lojban. We get one of you every = couple of months and they never stick around.) >http://youtube.com/user/rogicallanguagegroup/ Check out the video lessons = if you want to start learning right away. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/hunwMPsZfD0J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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Thanks.  We appr= eciate your efforts and welcome your script for its aesthetic -- and perhap= s eventually practical -- value.  If we seem a little touchy, it is --= as someone has noted -- that conlangs are liable to be approached by congl= yphers whose interest is mainly in seeing their glyphery in use, not in the= language they are offering it to, and who, consequently, don't stick aroun= d long.  As a practical matter, I would offer your glyphery to a varie= ty of conlangs -- always as an interesting flourish, not as a compelling re= placement, as most conlangs rather like that sort of thing (it is a part --= not really even peripheral -- of coning). 

BTW, why do you sk= ip the historically and mathematically significant base 60 system (covered = by the 100, I suppose)?



From: va= sten <vastencn@gmail.com>
T= o: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:46 PM
Subject: [lojban] Re: Dscript + Lojba= n ???

really? ok

well... please judge me based on= merit as opposed to prejudice.

Dscript is not some little "font", i= have put a decade into it, and im not joking around when I say I am intere= sted in applying to Lojban.

Lojban is the first I have approached, b= een thinking long and hard about whether to tie myself to a langauge, and i= f so which one. (tie in the sense that i would have to invest alot fo my ti= me, dscript of course will always work for any alphabet)


On Frid= ay, September 7, 2012 6:44:52 AM UTC+8, la .lindar. wrote:
We only have words to support hex and l= ower. You're welcome to do anything you'd like, but the official writing sy= stem shall remain Roman. We have a number of alternate scripts already, so = perhaps look at how those have been done? As long as you understand that we're not going to adopt your script and likely nobody will help you becau= se we have a lot of other stuff to do you're welcome to do whatever you'd l= ike. Post examples when it's done as it looks rather interesting.
(Sorr= y if I seem curt, but you are by no means the first person to come along an= d want to adopt a writing system for Lojban. We get one of you every couple= of months and they never stick around.)
http://youtube.com/user/= rogicallanguagegroup/ Check out the video lessons if you want to start lear= ning right away.
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