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On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:33:28 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:
>
> I added some translations. However, I=92m sceptical of the possibility th=
at=20
> an anonymous spreadsheet combined with this here message board might lead=
=20
> to a quality-wise better phrasebook than Tatoeba, which is, in comparison=
,=20
> a very sophisticated environment. While Tatoeba is still very chaotic and=
=20
> not reliable in any scholarly sense, the simple fact that there=92s a com=
ment=20
> area for each sentence does facilitate proofreading and serious discussio=
n=20
> on details of translation, sometimes with enlightening results. Sorry, bu=
t=20
> I don=92t understand how your file should lead to comparable, let alone=
=20
> better results.
>

1. Commenting IS possible for every cell of Google spreadsheet.
2. This phrasebook presents only sentences that are most important for=20
normal speech. Therefore it won't be chaotic. No quotes from Shakespear or=
=20
something (although we might add such things on separate sheets but it=20
would be a distinct project anyway).
3. It can also give situational dialogues which are largely absent in=20
Tatoeba but which bear even more semantic meaning and integrity than simple=
=20
sentences.



> -iesk
>
> Le samedi 8 septembre 2012 18:19:15 UTC+2, la gleki a =E9crit :
>>
>> Tatoeba proved to be of less significance due to low quality of=20
>> translated sentences and the lack of opportunities to proofread them.
>>
>> So I created this file=20
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddHBqSk9nT0Jmc=
TJ2bXcyLTFtTERZUnc
>>
>> I'm in the process of translating Lojban column.
>> You are free to add
>> 1. Rows for other useful phrases.
>> 2. Columns for your native languages (so you are not even required to be=
=20
>> familiar with Lojban at all).
>>
>> Any feedback is welcome.
>>
>

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<br><br>On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:33:28 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:<bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-l=
eft: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">I added some translations. However,=
 I=92m sceptical of the possibility that an anonymous spreadsheet combined =
with this here message board might lead to a quality-wise better phrasebook=
 than Tatoeba, which is, in comparison, a very sophisticated environment. W=
hile Tatoeba is still very chaotic and not reliable in any scholarly sense,=
 the simple fact that there=92s a comment area for each sentence does facil=
itate proofreading and serious discussion on details of translation, someti=
mes with enlightening results. Sorry, but I don=92t understand how your fil=
e should lead to comparable, let alone better results.<br></blockquote><div=
><br></div><div>1. Commenting IS possible for every cell of Google spreadsh=
eet.</div><div>2. This phrasebook presents only&nbsp;sentences that are&nbs=
p;most important for normal speech. Therefore it won't be chaotic. No quote=
s from Shakespear or something (although we might add such things on separa=
te sheets but it would be a distinct project anyway).</div><div>3. It can a=
lso give situational dialogues which are largely absent in Tatoeba but whic=
h bear even more semantic meaning and integrity than simple sentences.</div=
><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"=
><br>-iesk<br><br>Le samedi 8 septembre 2012 18:19:15 UTC+2, la gleki a =E9=
crit&nbsp;:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:=
0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Tatoeba proved to b=
e of less significance due to low quality of translated sentences and the l=
ack of opportunities to proofread them.<br></div><div><br></div><div>So I c=
reated this file&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?ke=
y=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddHBqSk9nT0JmcTJ2bXcyLTFtTERZUnc" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/docs.google.com/<wbr>spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D<wbr>0Ahngu1CNj7wddHBqSk9nT0Jmc=
TJ2b<wbr>XcyLTFtTERZUnc</a></div><br><div>I'm in the process of translating=
 Lojban column.</div><div>You are free to add</div><div>1. Rows for other u=
seful phrases.</div><div>2. Columns for your native languages (so you are n=
ot even required to be familiar with Lojban at all).</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Any feedback is welcome.</div></blockquote></blockquote>

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