Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:51863) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TCDQF-00048a-Jc; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:41:59 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf2702035qca.16 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:41:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jwfARVxoPxLmlSP4QKL8kKVQDW4oHvNhnCcJnXiIiBw=; b=Vfli9DD6qroHC+xarhQJQ6jMd1pk6EgIN12j0bPzvDWiqE/XrE9ZdofP4k5OgJhHoZ ybKTv+b9R+ckY43SkjfmOk/PcIEwlcGo88L/YlInNm2CNjRiti4XeMhGnF7OB/zbxDc3 Sa14fJlboFr/CVypPXaksxw2dolGrv64j4zny/vxQTaNMsHenP8FcJG4m/3gkVYNHmJK 3+7lLlrZ2pKrN61W+4UdOGgWXzX3dppsH17c5ZYDwc9wUvh6Mh3YjLdc59NiCO6Frozr 7VuWcBrniA7Kux5IeQR7u+jKL7/pMlihoIcVtohiGt3Jklh6UGfC7t9dPpeZlFNFCadA AJNw== Received: by 10.236.192.168 with SMTP id i28mr13820yhn.7.1347558102242; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:41:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.154.170 with SMTP id h30ls5276321yhk.7.gmail; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.153.6 with SMTP id e6mr4562yhk.20.1347558099659; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.153.6 with SMTP id e6mr4561yhk.20.1347558099650; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i24si2362224anh.2.2012.09.13.10.41.36; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152F7391C for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:41:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Yacht Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:41:34 -0400 Message-ID: <2388423.coKpO4eTEZ@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.4 (Linux/3.2.0-29-generic; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <5051E59B.205@gmx.de> References: <5051E59B.205@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Thursday, September 13, 2012 15:54:35 selpa'i wrote: > Am 13.09.2012 15:04, schrieb Betsemes: > > coi rodo > > I have been looking for a lojban word for "yacht" on jbovlaste, but > > found nothing. Generally speaking, a yacht is a private boat or ship > > used for pleasure. That word could also be used in the sense of > > "racing boat" though. > > > > I initially thought on fu'ivla: > > blotrjate (from Spanish "yate"): x1 is a yacht/private pleasure > > boat/ship owned by x2, propelled by x3 > > The word comes from the Dutch "Jacht", which in Lojban would be {iaxt}. > So I'd suggest "blotriaxti" (probably not so pretty), or a stage-4 > "iaxti" (the final i is taken from bloti). Of course, Jacht means hunt > (n), but the purpose of Jachts have shifted and are indeed more about > luxury and leisure or about racing nowadays(and who knows what else). A type-3 fu'ivla has to have a foreign part beginning with a consonant. Changing "i" to "j" seems reasonable here. Often an "x" is inserted before it if it begins with a vowel. Pierre -- The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.