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hm. These letter-shifts... aren't they used to get at extra BY ? I mean, in
speech, saying "oh ho! suddenly I'm speaking the *same language* but in a
different alphabet, tee hee" has no real effect.

In other words {me'o ge'o by} refers to beta. These BY are pronouns just
like the rest, and don't just indicate a change in the writing system of
the text representing the lojban.

.i mi'a la tsani mu'o

On 13 September 2012 13:29, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>wrote:

>    No.  It's simply that the default orthography for lojban is the one
> that I am using RIGHT NOW to type this letter, so it's convenient to refer
> to it as the lojban orthography or the
> Latin/romanji/Spanish/English/German, etc. orthography.  If we were using
> tegwar, larlermorna, srilermorna, etc., we would need a different shift,
> with zai or ce'a.... ru'o is the shift for Cyrillic.
>     --gejyspa
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> I take {softo} to correspond to something like 'pertaining to the
>> "Russosphere"', not (just) 'Soviet'. Since I don't know of any serious
>> usage of that word, I'm not sure what to do with it, however.
>>
>> Obviously the Cyrillic alphabet is not limited to that
>> culture/area/whatever. On the other hand, the Latin alphabet is not limited
>> to Latin -- is it {latmo} though? I don't know.
>>
>> (Even more off topic: I don't get {lo'a}. How can it (or could it, if it
>> were used) shift to the Lojban *slash* Latin alphabet? Do we not pretend
>> that they are not necessarily the same thing? Does {lo'a} shift to Cyrillic
>> in a Cyrillic Lojban text?)
>>
>> -iesk
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hm. These letter-shifts... aren&#39;t they used to get at extra BY ? I mean=
, in speech, saying &quot;oh ho! suddenly I&#39;m speaking the *same langua=
ge* but in a different alphabet, tee hee&quot; has no real effect.<div><br>

</div><div>In other words {me&#39;o ge&#39;o by} refers to beta. These BY a=
re pronouns just like the rest, and don&#39;t just indicate a change in the=
 writing system of the text representing the lojban.</div><div><br></div>

<div>.i mi&#39;a la tsani mu&#39;o<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 13 =
September 2012 13:29, Michael Turniansky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:mturniansky@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mturniansky@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 =A0No. =A0It&#39;s simp=
ly that the default orthography for lojban is the one that I am using RIGHT=
 NOW to type this letter, so it&#39;s convenient to refer to it as the lojb=
an orthography or the Latin/romanji/Spanish/English/German, etc. orthograph=
y. =A0If we were using tegwar, larlermorna, srilermorna, etc., we would nee=
d a different shift, with zai or ce&#39;a.... ru&#39;o is the shift for Cyr=
illic.<div>


=A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div><div><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv class=3D"im">On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, iesk <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:pa.fae@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">pa.fae@gmx.de</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br>

</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I take {softo} to correspond to something like &#39;pertaining to the &quot=
;Russosphere&quot;&#39;, not (just) &#39;Soviet&#39;. Since I don&#39;t kno=
w of any serious usage of that word, I&#39;m not sure what to do with it, h=
owever.<br>



<br>
Obviously the Cyrillic alphabet is not limited to that culture/area/whateve=
r. On the other hand, the Latin alphabet is not limited to Latin -- is it {=
latmo} though? I don&#39;t know.<br>
<br>
(Even more off topic: I don&#39;t get {lo&#39;a}. How can it (or could it, =
if it were used) shift to the Lojban *slash* Latin alphabet? Do we not pret=
end that they are not necessarily the same thing? Does {lo&#39;a} shift to =
Cyrillic in a Cyrillic Lojban text?)<br>



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