Received: from mail-wg0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:60426) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TCH4k-0005yt-4Q; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:58 -0700 Received: by wgbdr13 with SMTP id dr13sf1377693wgb.16 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mT2VyS3h0L4EmlbHsHKI3wWwAgDvFvk0KUFqg1KYOTA=; b=v9pit2OsyJOa6Xea65Ots5+C8QZybpOz5dTfL7NRPRU+FiipVI2VgalqvqUYs0eEIY ml8DQJHfsUVZ6xJuZasM4IERt6DWxBzwxQV3GstxrQRNRLyG84WFSB5jwAqcMQGXJRX2 A/cH6IIni2p1Ksg/JgesoIABC7qFm13ti/S14EG0yxaLR/lLVVcf8UrPxN3evHCAZy8R fyAcFT5XbwoTYidowEaGb27G3kEP8VkIjV5ZHLOtIVstk8M3PAswfKnalYThgpqi+lHX i6BgffFKczUIoKaQKHIPgFZnGhoJpFXz+nRVjnhCU6xK1aUowv1X6tXPMVHXTbwW1gBD 8weA== Received: by 10.180.104.166 with SMTP id gf6mr3688641wib.1.1347572146444; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.202.99 with SMTP id c77ls4338450weo.6.gmail; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.128.207 with SMTP id l15mr159378bks.4.1347572145465; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.128.207 with SMTP id l15mr159377bks.4.1347572145442; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si5388338bks.2.2012.09.13.14.35.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.41; Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so2414935lah.0 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.83.35 with SMTP id n3mr345570lby.68.1347572144945; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.40.71 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:35:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2388423.coKpO4eTEZ@caracal> References: <5051E59B.205@gmx.de> <2388423.coKpO4eTEZ@caracal> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:35:44 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Yacht From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9d71210023a9004c99c1714 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae9d71210023a9004c99c1714 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 zo'oi.Yacht. za'i surla kei barda bloti .i.e'o ko finti pa lujvo fo di'u ki'u lodu'u mi xebni lo fu'ivla On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday, September 13, 2012 15:54:35 selpa'i wrote: > > Am 13.09.2012 15:04, schrieb Betsemes: > > > coi rodo > > > I have been looking for a lojban word for "yacht" on jbovlaste, but > > > found nothing. Generally speaking, a yacht is a private boat or ship > > > used for pleasure. That word could also be used in the sense of > > > "racing boat" though. > > > > > > I initially thought on fu'ivla: > > > blotrjate (from Spanish "yate"): x1 is a yacht/private pleasure > > > boat/ship owned by x2, propelled by x3 > > > > The word comes from the Dutch "Jacht", which in Lojban would be {iaxt}. > > So I'd suggest "blotriaxti" (probably not so pretty), or a stage-4 > > "iaxti" (the final i is taken from bloti). Of course, Jacht means hunt > > (n), but the purpose of Jachts have shifted and are indeed more about > > luxury and leisure or about racing nowadays(and who knows what else). > > A type-3 fu'ivla has to have a foreign part beginning with a consonant. > Changing "i" to "j" seems reasonable here. Often an "x" is inserted before > it > if it begins with a vowel. > > Pierre > -- > The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --14dae9d71210023a9004c99c1714 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zo'oi.Yacht. za'i surla kei barda bloti

.i.e'o ko finti = pa lujvo fo di'u ki'u lodu'u mi xebni lo fu'ivla

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Pierre Abbat <p= hma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Thursday, September 13,= 2012 15:54:35 selpa'i wrote:
> Am 13.09.2012 15:04, schrieb Betsemes:
> > coi rodo
> > I have been looking for a lojban word for "yacht" on jb= ovlaste, but
> > found nothing. Generally speaking, a yacht is a private boat or s= hip
> > used for pleasure. That word could also be used in the sense of > > "racing boat" though.
> >
> > I initially thought on fu'ivla:
> > blotrjate (from Spanish "yate"): x1 is a yacht/private = pleasure
> > boat/ship owned by x2, propelled by x3
>
> The word comes from the Dutch "Jacht", which in Lojban would= be {iaxt}.
> So I'd suggest "blotriaxti" (probably not so pretty), or= a stage-4
> "iaxti" (the final i is taken from bloti). Of course, Jacht = means hunt
> (n), but the purpose of Jachts have shifted and are indeed more about<= br> > luxury and leisure or about racing nowadays(and who knows what else).<= br>
A type-3 fu'ivla has to have a foreign part beginning with a cons= onant.
Changing "i" to "j" seems reasonable here. Often an &qu= ot;x" is inserted before it
if it begins with a vowel.

Pierre
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