=C2=A0 Precisely. =C2=A0For example, this week I received = an email message for my job at the hospital to configure a slide protocol f= or the stain "A=CE=B2", which is an abbreviation Beta-amyloid. = =C2=A0But if I was reading that email aloud (or if a grossing physician was= dictating to a transcriptionist, as they do), I/they would say "tau .= abu ge'o by" cumbersome, but it is what it is (and still three syl= lables shorter than "la'o xy.beta-amyloid xy." ;-) )

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa

On Thu= , Sep 13, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

hm. These letter-shifts... aren't they u= sed to get at extra BY ? I mean, in speech, saying "oh ho! suddenly I&= #39;m speaking the *same language* but in a different alphabet, tee hee&quo= t; has no real effect.

In other words {me'o ge'o by} refers to beta. These BY a= re pronouns just like the rest, and don't just indicate a change in the= writing system of the text representing the lojban.

.i mi'a la tsani mu'o

On 13 September 2012 13:29, Michael Turniansky <mtu= rniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0No. =C2=A0It&#= 39;s simply that the default orthography for lojban is the one that I am us= ing RIGHT NOW to type this letter, so it's convenient to refer to it as= the lojban orthography or the Latin/romanji/Spanish/English/German, etc. o= rthography. =C2=A0If we were using tegwar, larlermorna, srilermorna, etc., = we would need a different shift, with zai or ce'a.... ru'o is the s= hift for Cyrillic.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> = wrote:

I take {softo} to correspond to something like 'pertaining to the "= ;Russosphere"', not (just) 'Soviet'. Since I don't kno= w of any serious usage of that word, I'm not sure what to do with it, h= owever.

Obviously the Cyrillic alphabet is not limited to that culture/area/whateve= r. On the other hand, the Latin alphabet is not limited to Latin -- is it {= latmo} though? I don't know.

(Even more off topic: I don't get {lo'a}. How can it (or could it, = if it were used) shift to the Lojban *slash* Latin alphabet? Do we not pret= end that they are not necessarily the same thing? Does {lo'a} shift to = Cyrillic in a Cyrillic Lojban text?)

-iesk

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