Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:37154) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TCdFm-0000Zc-V6; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:16:55 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf1716573vbz.16 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:16:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=keIkDItJ4I5ujMTH18zBCOLC3Khve6PEYfr6Ur2xzi0=; b=Wm2RK6Y8ytAb8iL8FML40W4wf31e3iSf+DOqXZVRbLY6LpVmvhBA9y3gGEtg0G0NOb /DXDXUO66J3/s/Dioy0ilH2rzNxhgrBJirUeSUDOIonqZYivg8Q7yijn0Atnomc5PwIR sVtmOgARpq49/KIIZwerA9hdfPyD2Y8/QGcsQiNLp8Us+vGnqKyOvJNWEW831fnIO1dk 8fvgx3jvsjEuwOfIRwcWyPh8UMPIpI/pk967XpSAJdMjNdLRs39fNp+F0WlvLOcPCAyX ier39TrRxnGK/Jv5tvTtAYvKxGBnTyw2k8oFqT6aZ88tyRM10Nt1d+1QD8q2ptAiyBsF MJag== Received: by 10.236.74.161 with SMTP id x21mr832536yhd.13.1347657400137; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:16:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.154.232 with SMTP id h68ls408455yhk.2.gmail; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.179.72 with SMTP id g48mr2492628yhm.37.1347657399596; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.179.72 with SMTP id g48mr2492627yhm.37.1347657399587; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pi.meson.org (pi.meson.org. [96.56.207.26]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id mx3si733259qcb.3.2012.09.14.14.16.39; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) client-ip=96.56.207.26; Received: (qmail 25208 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2012 21:16:38 -0000 Received: from nagas.meson.org (192.168.1.101) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 14 Sep 2012 21:16:38 -0000 Message-ID: <50539EB6.5050806@kli.org> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:16:38 -0400 From: "Mark E. Shoulson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120827 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Yacht References: <5051E59B.205@gmx.de> <2388423.coKpO4eTEZ@caracal> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: mark@kli.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) smtp.mail=mark@kli.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On 09/14/2012 03:00 PM, .arpis. wrote: > It seems to me against the spirit of lojban to try to define a lujvo > to mean something so specific (and culturally specific) as "yacht"; > I'd use {surblo} to mean "boat used for relaxation" and let context > disambiguate whether I meant cruise ship or yacht. I have yet to be convinced that simply {bloti} isn't sufficient. It depends on the context, of course, but even if you need to say it's a yacht and not just a boat, why not _explain what you mean_, in lujvo, tanru, even whole phrases, and then just call it a {bloti} from then on? ~mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.