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On Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:36:09 PM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:
>
> So, I very quickly (as in an arbitrary decision needs to be made within 
> the next 36 hours) need names for all of the keys. I've elected to use the 
> phrasing {la'e .a bu batke fi lo nu co'e} because it's short and gets the 
> point across in a character-limited space. If this is absolutely verbotten, 
> please let me know, but otherwise don't nitpick. I see 
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Keyboard+key+names contains some of the keys, 
> but not all of them. So, the ones I specifically need and on which I would 
> like a quick consensus are:
>
> space bar
>

canlubu
 

> escape
>

cliva bu
 

> up
> down
> left
> right
>

left, right, up, down buttons - zunle, pritu....bu ?

 

> left shift
> right shift
>

tarmi bu???
 

> left control
> right control
>

sazri bu...
 

> left alt
> right alt
>

Alt + left = stika bu joi/jo'u zunlebu ?
 

> tab
> enter
>

cfari bu
 

> backspace
>

trixyvimcu bu
 

> insert
>

definitely {setca bu}, although will probably be a conflict with "paste" 
function which is also {setca} in computer sense.
 

> delete
>

vimcu bu
 

> page up
>

This is not "page up" but rather "large space up". However, as we haven't 
decided on how to say "page" in general (no matter if it's made of paper or 
displayed on your screen, I'd rather stick with {te tcidu} and {se tcidu} 
depending on situation) let it be {galtu zei ckupau bu}
 

> page down
>

{dizlo zei ckupau bu}
 

> home
>

krasi bu. {zdani bu} is kinda metaphor.

end
>

{fanmo bu} if {fanmo} = {to'e krasi}

/ (keypad)
> * (keypad)
> - (keypad)
> + (keypad)
> . (keypad)
> enter (keypad)
>

not a clue.
 

> num lock
>

Numlock - number switch, na'uvra bu?
 

> capslock
>

Should use the same gismu as for "shift". tarmi vraga???

> scroll lock
>

lacpu bu
 

> pause
>

.ii {denpa bu} has already another meaning!
sisti bu?


1 (keypad)
> 2 (keypad)
> 3 (keypad)
> 4 (keypad)
> 5 (keypad)
> 6 (keypad)
> 7 (keypad)
> 8 (keypad)
> 9 (keypad)
> 0 (keypad)
>

again not a clue. Something like {nonckiku bu} etc....?

 

> "gamepad"
> joystick right
> joystick left
>

Sorry. No ideas.
 

>
> Help is muchly appreciated and I will try to compensate you in some manner 
> for your assistance.
>
> As a random side-bit, I found this in my search and thought it was 
> interesting. Anybody try it? I'm going to once I force myself to take a 
> break from translating.
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Evolved+Lojban+Keyboard 
>

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<br><br>On Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:36:09 PM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrot=
e:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;b=
order-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div>So, I very quickly (as =
in an arbitrary decision needs to be made within the next 36 hours) need na=
mes for all of the keys. I've elected to use the phrasing {la'e .a bu batke=
 fi lo nu co'e} because it's short and gets the point across in a character=
-limited space. If this is absolutely verbotten, please let me know, but ot=
herwise don't nitpick. I see&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Key=
board+key+names" target=3D"_blank">http://www.lojban.org/<wbr>tiki/Keyboard=
+key+names</a>&nbsp;<wbr>contains some of the keys, but not all of them. So=
, the ones I specifically need and on which I would like a quick consensus =
are:</div><div><br></div><div><div>space bar</div></div></blockquote><div><=
br></div><div>canlubu</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;paddin=
g-left: 1ex;"><div><div>escape</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=
cliva bu</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"=
><div><div>up</div><div>down</div><div>left</div><div>right</div></div></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div><div>left, right, up, down buttons - zunle, pritu..=
..bu ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>left shift</div><div>right shift</div></div=
></blockquote><div><br></div><div>tarmi bu???</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-lef=
t: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>left control</div><div>righ=
t control</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>sazri bu...</div><div=
>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-le=
ft: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>left al=
t</div><div>right alt</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Alt + lef=
t =3D stika bu joi/jo'u zunlebu ?<br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>tab</div><div>enter</div></div></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div><div>cfari bu</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>backspace</div></div></blockquote><=
div><br></div><div>trixyvimcu bu</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>insert</div></div></blockquote><div><br>=
</div><div>definitely {setca bu}, although will probably be a conflict with=
 "paste" function which is also {setca} in computer sense.</div><div>&nbsp;=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8=
ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>delete</div></=
div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>vimcu bu</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-lef=
t: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>page up</div></div></blockq=
uote><div><br></div><div>This is not "page up" but rather "large space up".=
 However, as we haven't decided on how to say "page" in general (no matter =
if it's made of paper or displayed on your screen, I'd rather stick with {t=
e tcidu} and {se tcidu} depending on situation) let it be {galtu zei ckupau=
 bu}</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><di=
v><div>page down</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>{dizlo zei cku=
pau bu}</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">=
<div><div>home</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>krasi bu. {zdani=
 bu} is kinda metaphor.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;paddin=
g-left: 1ex;"><div><div>end</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>{fa=
nmo bu} if {fanmo} =3D {to'e krasi}</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>/ (keypad)</div><div>* (keypad)</div>=
<div>- (keypad)</div><div>+ (keypad)</div><div>. (keypad)</div><div>enter (=
keypad)</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>not a clue.</div><div>&=
nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left=
: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>num lock<=
/div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Numlock - number switch, na'uvr=
a bu?</div><div>&nbsp;<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;=
"><div><div>capslock</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Should use=
 the same gismu as for "shift". tarmi vraga???</div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>scroll lock</div></div></blockquote><div><b=
r></div><div>lacpu bu</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;paddin=
g-left: 1ex;"><div><div>pause</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>.=
ii {denpa bu} has&nbsp;already&nbsp;another meaning!</div><div>sisti bu?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex=
;"><div><div>1 (keypad)</div><div>2 (keypad)</div><div>3 (keypad)</div><div=
>4 (keypad)</div><div>5 (keypad)</div><div>6 (keypad)</div><div>7 (keypad)<=
/div><div>8 (keypad)</div><div>9 (keypad)</div><div>0 (keypad)</div></div><=
/blockquote><div><br></div><div>again not a clue. Something like {nonckiku =
bu} etc....?</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>"gamepad"</div><div>joystick right</div><div>=
joystick left</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sorry. No ideas.<=
/div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;=
margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><br=
></div><div>Help is muchly appreciated and I will try to compensate you in =
some manner for your assistance.</div><div><br></div>As a random side-bit, =
I found this in my search and thought it was interesting. Anybody try it? I=
'm going to once I force myself to take a break from translating.<div><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DEvolved+Lojban+Keybo=
ard" target=3D"_blank">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/<wbr>tiki-index.php?page=
=3DEvolved+<wbr>Lojban+Keyboard</a>&nbsp;<br></div></blockquote>

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