Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:55234) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TCsOL-00075x-QS; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:46 -0700 Received: by ghbf15 with SMTP id f15sf1940287ghb.16 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=TbrkzQRoXvSjARrKJ6gRDxKDYdH0esk1azu97/NRHBE=; b=UoHlbmng1Lf9P9gAJP349WOZvy86RFDd/bcSTQcA+GZqlw4np/tUqpPvyYkEleEA7F NUN4VGYnYgD6q3mp7yezX4bBYF4v+Y/5MlZTO2mIpHC0d+eRuZIQ+cRjvs33Ywj+fDUC nrOjRlhYhVfxpxlGZVkiTDtAp+owS1ZOz18KYVhhoT3slKaOzTSnFirb4hf7tWKyVA9r R3inBySBs73e2q/ieRoc8l5PaS9AhQLcXuivwwEx6JpA0zq3Ctvv2doNWB5x4Es9P8j4 kcBuESToLn9X/q9qEfSNDgnirqAihUbSq01E6lVlPTQFBUu9OscMEQAApJOsbz+dGaGj yIAg== Received: by 10.52.35.84 with SMTP id f20mr247833vdj.3.1347715590398; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.36.237 with SMTP id t13ls360743vdj.3.gmail; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.58.206 with SMTP id t14mr1075347veq.16.1347715589887; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.58.206 with SMTP id t14mr1075346veq.16.1347715589879; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com (mail-vc0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z16si143039vdf.0.2012.09.15.06.26.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.174; Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id fo13so5394221vcb.5 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.21.82 with SMTP id t18mr1120345vde.66.1347715589754; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.147.37 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5051E59B.205@gmx.de> <2388423.coKpO4eTEZ@caracal> <50539EB6.5050806@kli.org> <5053B2EF.8070905@kli.org> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 09:26:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Yacht From: Betsemes To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: betsemes@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=betsemes@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Okay, After reading all of this about cultural neutrality et all, I guess this would be acceptable: leisure boat: surblo: x1 is a yacht/cruise ship/leisure boat(or ship) owned by x2, propelled by x3 cruise ship: surli'ubrablo: x1 is a cruise ship owned/operated by x2 yacht: iaxti: x1 is a yacht owned/used by x2, propelled by x3 The current most accepted concept of yacht is (if I have not misunderstood the concept) it being a boat or a relatively small ship (currently, the largest one is 163.5 metres long) used for recreational purposes, be it traveling, partying, racing, etc., even living aboard. They may be powered by internal combustion engines or by the wind (sails or kites). mu'o mi'e betsemes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.