Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:39760) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TCtm0-0008DO-NB; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:55:19 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf2296942vbz.16 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:55:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1CpMIwhRbpYBy5ilvNRttjbGEpVemim9kRMKEAE5BbY=; b=S5KqUJOZs7h8lDkmqyChGq4x9cy26wEOGpaRarXlSme/YgIr5xf7fPBX48nc9oM/E6 OKpx3VR/vJNKkwy727le3RH9GA/BRExGMLmuxVMt5HpW5CQNRSNY5sx7ovW6edSlGcM9 tXnXcT6A6OJ4YXjuVSR5wT9NM8y91BH7NVISb/fp2qcp0uLOPh11M0Up7og903WPSpcQ qVK/I295WYBGQMPXOcunYaVnPfqUBQ9Uf0+3Kfoe3tytRtWhcRvQdkJJ59dmBAu4qgzm 1ZpL8gz/8wcRC1y8vn75IDq5DpQo5+ZWEID/FN23fbBw3J/mBBGO0xUFtKsKyKwcb9yH fm+Q== Received: by 10.50.91.133 with SMTP id ce5mr991822igb.5.1347720901461; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:55:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.65.137 with SMTP id j9ls7998779ibi.7.gmail; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.149.228 with SMTP id ud4mr1118027igb.0.1347720900784; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.149.228 with SMTP id ud4mr1118026igb.0.1347720900765; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ar7si486762igc.0.2012.09.15.07.55.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.223.180; Received: by ieak11 with SMTP id k11so7424181iea.11 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.181.200 with SMTP id dy8mr2184901igc.36.1347720900603; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:55:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.25.8 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:54:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5051E59B.205@gmx.de> <2388423.coKpO4eTEZ@caracal> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:54:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Yacht To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340983896ef304c9beb99f X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae9340983896ef304c9beb99f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > My only objection to the use of sivni is that sivni is private as in > private thoughts, but I don't really have a better alternative. "Private > property" isn't property kept hidden or in secret, it's merely something > owned by an individual (or sometimes a small group of individuals like in > the case of family-owned and timeshares). But as I said, I don't have any > good alternatives- I don't think pukypreposblo is better. hyphen: pukypreposyblo stevo > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Betsemes wrote: > >> Okay. So your definitions: >> zoi gy.Cruise Ship.gy za'i surla litru kei barda bloti >> zo'oi.Yacht. za'i surla kei bloti >> I take that you accept that a yacht is not necesarily big. >> >> So then >> cruise ship: {zazysurli'ukezbrablo} or {surli'ubrablo} >> yacht: {zazysurkezblo} or just {surblo}; and since nobody proved it >> wrong (yet), {puksivblo} might also be. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> mu'o mi'e betsemes >> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> > Also, Cruise Ships are always big. So that gives us two differentiation >> > points: Cruise ships are big, and used for trips of leisure, yachts are >> much >> > smaller, though usually bigger than speedboats, and are used for >> leisure in >> > general. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> >> >> >> zoi gy.Cruise Ship.gy za'i surla litru kei barda bloti >> >> >> >> And yes, I know yachts are also used for leisure trips. My point is >> that >> >> yachts are defined by being a boat for leisure, whereas cruise ships >> are >> >> defined by being a boat for leisure trips. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Jonatha= n Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
My only objection to the use of sivni is that sivni is private as in privat= e thoughts, but I don't really have a better alternative. "Private= property" isn't property kept hidden or in secret, it's merel= y something owned by an individual (or sometimes a small group of individua= ls like in the case of family-owned and timeshares). But as I said, I don&#= 39;t have any good alternatives- I don't think pukypreposblo is better.=

hyphen: pukypreposyblo

stevo= =A0


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Betsemes <betsemes@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay. So your definitions:
zoi gy.Cruise Ship.gy za'i surla litru kei barda bloti
zo'oi.Yacht. za'i surla kei bloti
I take that you accept that a yacht is not necesarily big.

So then
cruise ship: {zazysurli'ukezbrablo} or {surli'ubrablo}
yacht: {zazysurkezblo} or just {surblo}; and since nobody proved it
wrong (yet), {puksivblo} might also be.

Thoughts?

mu'o mi'e betsemes

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:=
> Also, Cruise Ships are always big. So that gives us two differentiatio= n
> points: Cruise ships are big, and used for trips of leisure, yachts ar= e much
> smaller, though usually bigger than speedboats, and are used for leisu= re in
> general.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> zoi gy.Cruise Ship.gy za'i surla litru kei barda bloti
>>
>> And yes, I know yachts are also used for leisure trips. My point i= s that
>> yachts are defined by being a boat for leisure, whereas cruise shi= ps are
>> defined by being a boat for leisure trips.

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