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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
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On Saturday, September 15, 2012 01:36:09 la .lindar. wrote:
> So, I very quickly (as in an arbitrary decision needs to be made within the
> next 36 hours) need names for all of the keys. I've elected to use the
> phrasing {la'e .a bu batke fi lo nu co'e} because it's short and gets the
> point across in a character-limited space. If this is absolutely verbotten,
> please let me know, but otherwise don't nitpick. I see
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Keyboard+key+names contains some of the keys,
> but not all of them. So, the ones I specifically need and on which I would
> like a quick consensus are:
> 
> space bar

lo me'o kunti bu clabatke. I'm going to omit "batke" usually.

> escape
> up

ga'u bu

> down

ni'a bu

> left

zu'a bu

> right

ri'u bu

> left shift

lo zunle ke me me'o tau bu batke
This doesn't quite make sense, as shift is not a character, but "me'o tau" 
without a following BY or BU is ungrammatical.

> right shift
> left control
> right control
> left alt
> right alt
> tab
> enter

I'd use "carcyxru bu" for carriage return and "linji bu" for line feed, or 
something like that. The enter key produces a carriage return, but it's 
translated to a line feed by termcap (or something). Take your pick on which 
to call the enter key.

> backspace
> insert

lo setca batke

> delete

lo vimcu batke

> page up
> page down
> home
> end
> / (keypad)
> * (keypad)
> - (keypad)
> + (keypad)
> . (keypad)
> enter (keypad)
> num lock
> capslock
> scroll lock
> pause
> 1 (keypad)

me'o pa pe lo nacybatkygri

> 2 (keypad)
> 3 (keypad)
> 4 (keypad)
> 5 (keypad)
> 6 (keypad)
> 7 (keypad)
> 8 (keypad)
> 9 (keypad)
> 0 (keypad)
> "gamepad"
> joystick right
> joystick left

I suggest "teibu" for the compose key, subject to the same concern as "taubu".

Pierre
-- 
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li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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