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Am 16.09.2012 17:08, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
>   Ah, so NOW I see where you are coming from.  You believe that,=20
> contrary to the CLL, "a word must never begin with a vowel", and that=20
> the denpa bu must always be a glottal stop, not just a pause.  Both=20
> are contradicted by Chapter 3 of the CLL,

The CLL's view on this topic is not very coherent. The CLL simply=20
overlooks a lot of this and is therefore outdated.

> and lojban as it is actually used.

As it is used by some. Those that understand the things I'm trying to=20
explain here (and agree with it) have already changed their way of using=20
Lojban to make it make more sense. You are not aware of all Lojban usage=20
out there, so this is an argument out of ignorance.

> Since are talking about some theoretical language that you use, and=20
> not lojban, there is no point in continuing this discussion, as we are=20
> talking about two different languages.

If by Lojban you mean what the CLL describes, then yes, that is not a=20
language I'm speaking and nor is anybody else I consider a good speaker=20
of Lojban. There is no point in bringing up the CLL in matters that it=20
clearly is either inconsistent about or that it adresses poorly. I'm=20
sure you are aware of at least some changes that have been made to the=20
original Language described in the CLL. Do you object to all of them=20
because the CLL contradicts them, or do you agree with them because they=20
actually make a lot of sense?

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

--=20
pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u
    .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u
ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu
    .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi
gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi
    .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku

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