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doi guskant, please don't enter any information written in lojban in 
Japanese (Romaji) column. Only one language allowed in each column.
Therefore, please transfer it to lojban column. You can use {to ... toi} 
for comments.

As not all of you have facebook account I'll keep you inform here of how 
ideas of Nizami are being crystallised.

Three points of Nizami.
1. Sentences are grouped in themes
2. Situational dialogs are preferred

And the most important item.
3. Short tutorials (just in one or two sentences) of how you are supposed 
to act in different situations depending on the country. e.g. 
http://wikitravel.org/en/Chinese_phrasebook has the following useful note 
"In most Chinese cities, there are no telephone booths. Instead, small 
street shops have telephones which can usually be used for national 
calls...."

Please note that "Language is not equal to country". Chinese is spoken 
outside mainland China. English is spoken everywhere.

The same can be said about some planned languages.
So short country-specific explanations are of great use. We should add them 
to Nizami.





On Monday, September 17, 2012 4:20:46 PM UTC+4, guskant wrote:
>
> 2012/9/17 Jacob Errington <nict...@gmail.com <javascript:>>: 
> > In my honest opinion, the best, exact way to talk about the age of 
> someone 
> > is {.i do co'a jmive puza ma} "how long ago did you begin to live" or 
> {.i do 
> > jbena puza ma} "how long ago were you born." 
> > 
>
> I agree to both. When you modify the question on the phrasebook, don't 
> forget to modify the answer to sumti. 
>
> mu'o 
>

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doi guskant, please don't enter any information written in lojban in Japane=
se (Romaji) column. Only one language allowed in each column.<div>Therefore=
, please transfer it to lojban column. You can use {to ... toi} for comment=
s.</div><div><br></div><div>As not all of you have facebook account I'll ke=
ep you inform here of how ideas of Nizami are being crystallised.</div><div=
><br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: =
0px;"><div><div>Three points of Nizami.</div></div><div><div>1. Sentences a=
re grouped in themes</div></div><div><div>2. Situational dialogs are prefer=
red</div></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div>And the most important i=
tem.</div></div><div><div>3. Short tutorials (just in one or two sentences)=
 of how you are supposed to act in different situations depending on the co=
untry. e.g. <a href=3D"http://wikitravel.org/en/Chinese_phrasebook">http://=
wikitravel.org/en/Chinese_phrasebook</a> has the following useful note "In =
most Chinese cities, there are no telephone booths. Instead, small street s=
hops have telephones which can usually be used for national calls...."</div=
></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div>Please note that "Language is no=
t equal to country". Chinese is spoken outside mainland China. English is s=
poken everywhere.</div></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div>The same c=
an be said about some planned languages.</div></div><div><div>So short coun=
try-specific explanations are of great use. We should add them to Nizami.</=
div></div></blockquote><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><b=
r>On Monday, September 17, 2012 4:20:46 PM UTC+4, guskant wrote:<blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">2012/9/17 Jacob Errington &lt;<a href=3D"=
javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"Qx7mjkukNMgJ">nict.=
..@gmail.com</a>&gt;:
<br>&gt; In my honest opinion, the best, exact way to talk about the age of=
 someone
<br>&gt; is {.i do co'a jmive puza ma} "how long ago did you begin to live"=
 or {.i do
<br>&gt; jbena puza ma} "how long ago were you born."
<br>&gt;
<br>
<br>I agree to both. When you modify the question on the phrasebook, don't
<br>forget to modify the answer to sumti.
<br>
<br>mu'o
<br></blockquote></div>

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