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Subject: Re: [lojban] CCL and xorlo
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On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 03:16:47 jsemeria92@gmail.com wrote:
> I was just wondering if anyone is working on updating the CCL (or any
> learning materials for that matter) to correct for xorlo?
>=20
> I remember hearing or reading somewhere (for the life of me I can't recal=
l
> the source) a few days ago that it was being worked on but I've failed to
> find any information about such a thing. I only ask because I want to try
> taking a crack at learning lojban again but I'd rather wait until the
> online CCL thing is updated with xorlo. I find the thought of learning
> lojban while trying to figure out how it really works with xorlo instead.
> Leads to me being very confused and frustrated I suppose. So I occasional=
ly
> click on the lojban website, check to see if the CCL has had xorlo
> incorporated and it never is so I end it at that. Rinse and repeat.

Xorlo changes only the semantics and usage of articles. The syntax is not=
=20
changed at all.

Other changes you may want to be aware of are:

*Dotside: you put a dot on each side of a cmevla, and you can say "la=20
.xavilat." instead of "la xavilot." (some place mentioned early in Genesis)=
=20
and "la .labruk." or "la .belarus." instead of "la blabruk". "la .xavilot."=
=20
and "la .blabruk." are still valid.

*Phonotactic changes: You have to worry about this only if you're going to=
=20
coin fu'ivla (which I do a fair bit). The words "mliau" (to meow), "cionmau=
"=20
(panda), "kriofla" (the spice clove), and "tarksako" (dandelion) may or may=
 not=20
be valid, depending on which rules are chosen. The CLL is not entirely clea=
r=20
on this.

None of this should keep you from learning Lojban, any more than having a=
=20
French book in the previous version of the orthography. You know not to eat=
=20
cig=FCe et ognons, even if it's spelled "cigu=EB et oignons". (Cig=FCe is p=
oisonous=20
and easily confused with carotte.)

Pierre
--=20
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

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