Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:57533) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TEPVf-0003Y8-VR; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:50 -0700 Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17sf1162551vcb.16 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UkPVxyroxuuupER3jtWuDO6h/7ATu708uyFiiN2S9P4=; b=JWGrQCtt05bE8idxvW+kJCo13Lef47S9f78jEE78UChrV7pXLs1ORPnBndpR0l07H9 lxKYuKZOHYEQ2JpQ+R7E99l6P85AfU3reXQabtIp0Smb8q6sEwODGdySuJ7GUChcJIeX L5qrLFlDvT99ec9XOz9FAnTGY/ax8NXZeOES6oG6mvxQBQotpT5w4vxeYhh/FZj8x5e/ CToopdDhS6XWAth/4626WOXNiUob1UBON+0167sCLXHalatKkfQUIBE5iYXt/HJFLl/t XL9lHWDUTEZk5oF8VOAkJaDe5duvAvZ8X0RjjaCNdDs9pv+VwtR7EJERaSpFE24uCHPp qteA== Received: by 10.50.13.230 with SMTP id k6mr2706241igc.0.1348081221525; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.65.137 with SMTP id j9ls2954071ibi.7.gmail; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.170.72 with SMTP id ak8mr1778540igc.0.1348081220610; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.170.72 with SMTP id ak8mr1778537igc.0.1348081220589; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ar7si3662214igc.0.2012.09.19.12.00.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.223.169; Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so2383314ied.0 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.187.194 with SMTP id fu2mr3694473igc.37.1348081220412; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.148.40 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:59:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120919161914.GB29682@clanspum.net> References: <7deaac69-374a-4cb2-bff6-b45d8c8c7d31@googlegroups.com> <20120919161914.GB29682@clanspum.net> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:59:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] CCL and xorlo To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340de34563b004ca129ea2 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae9340de34563b004ca129ea2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > Hi jsemeria. I'm also new here. > > I went through the same thought process. I wound up deciding to just > learn from the CLL for these reasons: > > - The CLL is still prominently linked to on lojban.org > - My impression is that getting xorlo wrong amounts to using 'le' instead > of 'lo' > - I have a paper copy of CLL > - Waiting is boring > > As another outsider, I share some of your frustration, if not at the > same magnitude. I only knew about jbovlaste so I wrote > http://www.7gf.org/lojban/ before I found out about > http://vlasisku.lojban.org/ ; Looking at the cloud of selma'o (grammatical classes) at vlasisku makes me wonder. Is there any way to drastically reduce the number of selma'o? stevo > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --14dae9340de34563b004ca129ea2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Daniel= Lyons <fusion@storytotell.org> wrote:
Hi jsemeria. I'm also new here.

I went through the same thought process. I wound up deciding to just
learn from the CLL for these reasons:

=A0- The CLL is still prominently linked to on lojban.org
=A0- My impression is that getting xorlo wrong amounts to using 'le'= ; instead of 'lo'
=A0- I have a paper copy of CLL
=A0- Waiting is boring

As another outsider, I share some of your frustration, if not at the
same magnitude. I only knew about jbovlaste so I wrote
http://www.7gf.org= /lojban/ before I found out about
http://vlasisku.l= ojban.org/ ;

Looking at the cloud of se= lma'o (grammatical classes) at vlasisku makes me wonder. Is there any w= ay to drastically reduce the number of selma'o?=A0

stevo=A0
=A0

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