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Pretty much, but it might simplify the rules a bit.




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Subject: Re: [lojban] CCL and xorlo
 

Thanks to everyone for the responses, I suppose I'm just getting in my own way when it comes to diving into learning as always.

What
 parts of the language are being "perfected" since it seems the language
 currently is good enough so that trying to gain more people that are 
interested would only help the language. Rather than focusing years and 
years on trying to "perfect" it which will never happen, no language is 
perfect. Right now I'd prefer seeing a focus on getting newbies to join 
and get interested so that they may help since at this rate with our 
current workforce, it seems it'll take decades before its finally 
"done". There just seems to be too much "work" and not enough people. So
 again I wonder, what parts of the language are needing so much effort? 
Then again that's just my opinion again, I've done no work for the 
language so its speculation on my part. 

Also why reduce the 
amount of selma'o? With my limited knowledge, I assume selma'o are just 
the names given to the different cmavo groups so, even if you did reduce
 the number of selma'o the amount of cmavo would stay the same correct? 
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Pretty much, but it m=
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<hr size=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "jse=
meria92@gmail.com" &lt;jsemeria92@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-=
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an] CCL and xorlo<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id=3D"yiv404344852">Thanks to everyone for the responses, I suppose I'=
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 parts of the language are being "perfected" since it seems the language
 currently is good enough so that trying to gain more people that are=20
interested would only help the language. Rather than focusing years and=20
years on trying to "perfect" it which will never happen, no language is=20
perfect. Right now I'd prefer seeing a focus on getting newbies to join=20
and get interested so that they may help since at this rate with our=20
current workforce, it seems it'll take decades before its finally=20
"done". There just seems to be too much "work" and not enough people. So
 again I wonder, what parts of the language are needing so much effort?=20
Then again that's just my opinion again, I've done no work for the=20
language so its speculation on my part. <br><br>Also why reduce the=20
amount of selma'o? With my limited knowledge, I assume selma'o are just=20
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 the number of selma'o the amount of cmavo would stay the same correct? <br=
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