Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:48026) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TF8aJ-0007CW-Jl; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:08:40 -0700 Received: by fapp1 with SMTP id p1sf668238fap.16 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:08:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2axSUQbvnnhS+37GC9vZFMvw9+9Bh6N1x7S+NLhMsnE=; b=KuHYB8kIqP6FFDJOQEEOqC6adDTmAvyUHrDt2o2YGkxEHyppMvGHmCAx5wQGiHmHjc RL63icfNzlqZgrLmDmXo8uDe8ama98CVX73OctFKQpxrVuQPc3rl1Dpf6Uog9bPSf/Gr bpRIUZCb+lTO7tn+lrFVRj/ZYXh2gY+e4pKeBnnmXkM9G7D0gyjCZTi4l1ru5aSw/oMM BnNKlTZm3Yr/60n6FsO8E0a7ZGuG8Hu1zKyFJaXFand4rndErfqvuE2+3JZ5kFoCVPXX XQVK4lhR52VgfxLpx7J4+43XyZ83Y1+vPID/A0MpvTuArPpL1laGfDdbQC1xuGZrLTx7 UYxQ== Received: by 10.216.62.11 with SMTP id x11mr218718wec.51.1348254486253; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:08:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.213.71 with SMTP id z47ls1369639eeo.6.gmail; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.132 with SMTP id qm4mr1073566igc.2.1348254485267; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.132 with SMTP id qm4mr1073564igc.2.1348254485179; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu8si430892igc.1.2012.09.21.12.08.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.223.175; Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c11so7738258ieb.20 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.194.163 with SMTP id hx3mr2587191igc.37.1348254485025; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:08:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.148.40 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:07:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120921150955.GA20496@clanspum.net> References: <2B971FEE-7247-41D6-BB51-0F81040A67F1@storytotell.org> <20120921150955.GA20496@clanspum.net> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:07:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: ridiculous propaganda posters To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340caba5935604ca3af570 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae9340caba5935604ca3af570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 06:27:43AM -0700, la .lindar. wrote: > > {.deiv.} is "Dave". {.daiv.} sounds like "dive". > > Thanks. > > > Cute, though. > > Isn't propaganda, though. Just says stuff in Lojban, doesn't assert a > point > > of view. > > That's a rather limited view of propaganda. It's about winning hearts > and minds. If you restrict recruiting efforts to the domain of logical > appeals you'll only get minds. People like cool things. Lojban is > cool. It's worth putting the two together so people make the > connection. > > > http://jbotcan.org/jbo/wakaba.html We've got lots of that. > > That's good to hear. > > > THIS is *actual* propaganda from my campaign to get people to quit > bitching > > and actually get some work done. > > > > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Y9uUc78tdak/UD3d4U-eMKI/AAAAAAAADLU/YgI47eXp4sA/s864/rodobilga.png > > What you're saying here is: > > - Learn! Teach! Translate! List words! C.L.L. > - We must act for the strength of Lojban > - Action is most important > - Every Lojbanist is obliged > Ha ha! What a joke. Nobody obliges a Lojbanist. stevo > > Is that right? Not clear on the beginning but it sounds good to me. > > -- > Daniel Lyons > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --14dae9340caba5935604ca3af570 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Daniel= Lyons <fusion@storytotell.org> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 06:27:43AM -0700, la .lindar. wro= te:
> {.deiv.} is "Dave". {.daiv.} sounds like "dive".
Thanks.

> Cute, though.
> Isn't propaganda, though. Just says stuff in Lojban, doesn't a= ssert a point
> of view.

That's a rather limited view of propaganda. It's about winnin= g hearts
and minds. If you restrict recruiting efforts to the domain of logical
appeals you'll only get minds. People like cool things. Lojban is
cool. It's worth putting the two together so people make the
connection.

> http:= //jbotcan.org/jbo/wakaba.html We've got lots of that.

That's good to hear.

> THIS is *actual* propaganda from my campaign to get people to quit bit= ching
> and actually get some work done.
>
> https://lh5.g= oogleusercontent.com/-Y9uUc78tdak/UD3d4U-eMKI/AAAAAAAADLU/YgI47eXp4sA/s864/= rodobilga.png

What you're saying here is:

=A0 - Learn! Teach! Translate! List words! C.L.L.
=A0 - We must act for the strength of Lojban
=A0 - Action is most important
=A0 - Every Lojbanist is obliged

Ha ha!= What a joke. Nobody obliges a Lojbanist.=A0

stevo=
=A0

Is that right? Not clear on the beginning but it sounds good to me.

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