Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:41140) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TFAh5-00089l-C1; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:23:42 -0700 Received: by qabg14 with SMTP id g14sf473117qab.16 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5m8qaIo3Eig505H9eUIdI+axnecPSmGh/gTDU4F0Nhs=; b=ppnnaH+NyqKGgfnoaqaTJxeONklKltcAi046PrFZbcv1wmjXJ+3CHOy0/Rg8vIs4yh 9vngqBvORKSTRFwVMSP2b2td5xwREFVujk4TDBF8NRC8NBxA+9Nf3u39eKl2DO1nb3zQ ko95Du9njdbfb2e0aNutW9WW0KJZqZ+KlK5Ke+X8YYIKwSdNFvF9FNMS/GTVkO/+ccel KW8+WFQSgnDdbNozSLnF1V1ovzjlqGpZKLL+S6SDW2V+gY+zx92PRkpf7rUtTSnOtLuu KECNO6u9vOMzpRc2mLmJdBYNW2tALVh9t3EivNVx8Vu20RZoor9bO9useikL78/aTbcn ZmGQ== Received: by 10.52.35.84 with SMTP id f20mr1290850vdj.3.1348262600765; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.92.207 with SMTP id co15ls3121472vdb.5.gmail; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.155.100 with SMTP id vv4mr1139053veb.12.1348262600258; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.155.100 with SMTP id vv4mr1139052veb.12.1348262600245; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r14si571170vdu.1.2012.09.21.14.23.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.44; Received: by vbbfc26 with SMTP id fc26so4719855vbb.31 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.28.173 with SMTP id c13mr3036445vdh.48.1348262599870; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:23:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.92.48 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:22:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2B971FEE-7247-41D6-BB51-0F81040A67F1@storytotell.org> References: <2B971FEE-7247-41D6-BB51-0F81040A67F1@storytotell.org> From: Jacob Errington Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:22:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] ridiculous propaganda posters To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079b6d054489e04ca3cd99e X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf3079b6d054489e04ca3cd99e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {.i .u'u doi la daiv .i .e'anai ku'i mi na curmi le nu do go'i} For this purpose you should use {lo} (using {le} here offers no benifits really. There're almost no practical cases where {le nu} is ever needed.) {.e'a} (and by extension {.e'anai}) is what we call an "irrealis attitudinal". What that means is that it basically describes a non-real world. {.e'anai do go'i} by *itself* means "I'm not letting you do that," whereas {.e'anai mi na curmi lo nu do go'i} means "I'm not allowing it to not be the case that I allow you to do that," which sounds approximately as semantically wrong in English as it does in Lojban :p. Otherwise the pictures are pretty good. The "style" is a bit weird, but that's simply due to being new. .i'osai ui .i lo cnino cu se jmina vau .a'o .i mi'e la tsani mu'o On 21 September 2012 03:03, Daniel Lyons wrote: > I thought it might be fun to make some silly propaganda posters. My first > thought was movie stills with translated quotes. Check 'em out: > > http://www.7gf.org/lojban/propaganda/ > > I'm very new to Lojban; my vocabulary is very small as is my > understanding, so no doubt there are errors. I welcome your feedback and > corrections, hopefully I'm not too far off in the tall grass=85 :) > > Thanks, > > =97 > Daniel Lyons > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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For this purpose you should use {lo} (using {le} here offers no be= nifits really. There're almost no practical cases where {le nu} is ever= needed.)
{.e'a} (and by extension {.e'anai}) is what we call an "i= rrealis attitudinal". What that means is that it basically describes a= non-real world. {.e'anai do go'i} by *itself* means "I'm = not letting you do that," whereas {.e'anai mi na curmi lo nu do go= 'i} means "I'm not allowing it to not be the case that I allow= you to do that," which sounds approximately as semantically wrong in = English as it does in Lojban :p.

Otherwise the pictures are pretty good. The "style= " is a bit weird, but that's simply due to being new.
.i'osai ui .i lo cnino cu se jmina vau .a'o
.i mi'e la tsani mu'o


= On 21 September 2012 03:03, Daniel Lyons <fusion@storytotell.org&= gt; wrote:
I thought it might be fun to make some silly= propaganda posters. My first thought was movie stills with translated quot= es. Check 'em out:

=A0 htt= p://www.7gf.org/lojban/propaganda/

I'm very new to Lojban; my vocabulary is very small as is my understand= ing, so no doubt there are errors. I welcome your feedback and corrections,= hopefully I'm not too far off in the tall grass=85 :)

Thanks,

=97
Daniel Lyons



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