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And yes, the app works fine :-)  That's the beauty of the simulator being s=
o close to the actual thing itself, you don't have to worry so much about t=
he interactions with the huge array of device configurations and vendor and=
 carrier cruft that other platforms suffer.

kozmikreis



On 22 Sep 2012, at 17:05, kozmikreis wrote:

> Just press cmd + shift + 4, then space, then left click on the simulator =
to take a screen snap, and then crop the image file now on the desktop to s=
ize.  Highly intuitive Mac workflows, can't beat them ;-)
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> On 22 Sep 2012, at 14:21, Arran Ubels wrote:
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>> Ah right. Previously I had some difficulty getting screen shots from the=
 simulator, I ended up spending a couple hours manipulating screenshots to =
actually work in the app store.
>>=20
>> Does the app.. Actually work?
>>=20
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rote:
>> Hi Arran,
>>=20
>>     I have the app on my old 4, haven't yet decided if I want to switch =
to a 5, but afaik if you download the latest SDK then the iPhone simulator =
will let you test on the new screen res.
>>=20
>> Hope this helps,
>>=20
>> kozmikreis
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 21 Sep 2012, at 03:21, Arran Ubels wrote:
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>> > coi ro do
>> >
>> > About the the iPhone app that I wrote. (Does anyone use it?) I don't a=
ctually own an iPhone.. Which made testing the app hard, as you probably ha=
ve noticed there are bugs ect. I was just wondering if there was someone wi=
th an iPhone 5 that I could work with to get the app working with the new i=
Phone, and get screenshots of the correct resolution for the app store. (I =
got a polite email telling me to re-upload new screen shots.)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Arran
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:=
 space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">And yes, the app works fin=
e :-) &nbsp;That's the beauty of the simulator being so close to the actual=
 thing itself, you don't have to worry so much about the interactions with =
the huge array of device configurations and vendor and carrier cruft that o=
ther platforms suffer.<div><div><br></div><div>kozmikreis</div><div><br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 22 Sep 2012, at 17:05, kozmikreis w=
rote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-li=
ne-break: after-white-space; ">Just press cmd + shift + 4, then space, then=
 left click on the simulator to take a screen snap, and then crop the image=
 file now on the desktop to size. &nbsp;Highly intuitive Mac workflows, can=
't beat them ;-)<div><br></div><div>kozmikreis</div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div><div><br><div><div>On 22 Sep 2012, at 14:21, Arran Ubels wrote:</div=
><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Ah right=
. Previously I had some difficulty getting screen shots from the simulator,=
 I ended up spending a couple hours manipulating screenshots to actually wo=
rk in the app store.<div><br></div><div>Does the app.. Actually work?<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 3:54 AM, kozmikreis =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk" target=3D=
"_blank">kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex">
Hi Arran,<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I have the app on my old 4, haven't yet decided if I want to =
switch to a 5, but afaik if you download the latest SDK then the iPhone sim=
ulator will let you test on the new screen res.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps,<br>
<br>
kozmikreis<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On 21 Sep 2012, at 03:21, Arran Ubels wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; coi ro do<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; About the the iPhone app that I wrote. (Does anyone use it?) I don't a=
ctually own an iPhone.. Which made testing the app hard, as you probably ha=
ve noticed there are bugs ect. I was just wondering if there was someone wi=
th an iPhone 5 that I could work with to get the app working with the new i=
Phone, and get screenshots of the correct resolution for the app store. (I =
got a polite email telling me to re-upload new screen shots.)<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; Arran<br>
<br>
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