Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:52822) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TFTQC-00085V-17; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:23:25 -0700 Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17sf3726849vcb.16 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:23:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ZI/J7NtTv0q1O8rdEsVVfi+dNBisxbUkT09eDa7Di5s=; b=C/sl4mqf60k7WzV3hlBFo4hPJyP/gRvBpWo0wqlPAI3PyJ8NO7d2gruZ9eqCNSiCm7 +0glxvdSbKrxwW0zIbVIQY32h/mgSCCa5SWiRPRuhGM4POmDDmQJN7bxXJribhPQzYkC LEsTjW7+G9I7fqZZOpdZbdWe5cdNW+b2m58rCmO68bg8QgrfkAe+j1BEEVF/XCAbhrH6 lpfMDD73aLcLR1OlgQWUjLMQVKXr7PEaF5CDXRbcei/WVJtpazccSOiIHaxjysBtnEWy ycC4FL9zryU+LgyCQdn5rbQSFnLHs6ZkrwrHLTi51jN1zT8SDFXJzKdGnD2ViAEuZ68n XzPg== Received: by 10.52.66.235 with SMTP id i11mr1437038vdt.7.1348334589066; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:23:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.155.6 with SMTP id q6ls3464119vcw.3.gmail; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.21.44 with SMTP id s12mr1422604vde.5.1348334588589; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:23:08 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0f521c2b-1dba-4ddb-b6de-f0ef3e4911d6@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <505DEFA3.1010608@gmx.de> References: <20111107073107.GI21492@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111110070826.GT19979@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4EBC1F61.5040806@gmail.com> <20111118081544.GB2500@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <57e78744-ca43-461d-a0ff-5627305923fd@googlegroups.com> <20120714203726.GF30080@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <8f7c8ee6-3529-42cd-8b37-b1647295bba4@googlegroups.com> <11d882eb-8fd3-4e20-afc9-80dda2fc128a@googlegroups.com> <3222e614-449e-4885-a499-ba60ad7485d3@googlegroups.com> <505DEFA3.1010608@gmx.de> Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words, sort of: catlu vs. zgana MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_202_11716090.1348334588163" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_202_11716090.1348334588163 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:04:40 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote: > > Am 22.09.2012 19:02, schrieb Ian Johnson:=20 > > {mi viska lo plise noi farlu}. With some more twiddling you can force= =20 > > simultaneity if you care about it.=20 > > Or just "mi viska lo nu lo plise cu farlu".=20 > Hey, yes and no. That's the point. If lo se viska can be an abstraction=20 then my new gismu work. If not then I'll have to revert back to less=20 backward-compatible 3-argument predicates. Both my suggestions can be found= =20 on http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+sensory+gismu > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i=20 > > --=20 > pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo=20 > > do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u=20 > .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u=20 > ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu=20 > .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi=20 > gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi=20 > .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku=20 > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/cECROWJpj94J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_202_11716090.1348334588163 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:04:40 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:Am 22.09.2012 19:02, schrieb Ian = Johnson:
> {mi viska lo plise noi farlu}. With some more twiddling you can fo= rce=20
> simultaneity if you care about it.

Or just "mi viska lo nu lo plise cu farlu".

Hey, yes and no. That's the point. If = lo se viska can be an abstraction then my new gismu work. If not then I'll = have to revert back to less backward-compatible 3-argument predicates. Both= my suggestions can be found on http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+se= nsory+gismu

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u
    .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u
ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu
    .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi
gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi
    .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku

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