Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:59588) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TFUmL-0000Cf-SN; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:21 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf3783518obb.16 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YDMIHBnsahagVvnj5n2JU1NRA6IFxBE6nGb9KkMRs6Y=; b=t6YVE+nyIZO770ba9XBn54y4MK5bbgzyfZsGAsh1sDod1LUIKBPXbPdsBRBjKQTini HyXX36AObCk60pFIrPu5Rohm/pcgJXSTUyT7NDvxCokrsih/n5423OqH6PuUPHEZ4pnG i+vPKCIlqhjcJyaLwYguroJdC51uvNGDOIDvbD8ehbfV7iIuzrmFH0m75cxXZYkqKiI1 4v4zaK+FfbjN/3gBqmdxjIvC3Vw7kj7fmL0YwC+/WgoFFu04GvOITbRtqF+ii1ROhKhA SsICScoeqhAWe6EpDzxsOHRkl6kO1/VYquKwPXqO14V970ld10uGv1UTz508rJ2/IMg8 9nMQ== Received: by 10.50.6.225 with SMTP id e1mr569785iga.1.1348339807374; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.157.164 with SMTP id wn4ls992266igb.0.canary; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.18.67 with SMTP id qf3mr3482440icb.18.1348339806718; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.18.67 with SMTP id qf3mr3482439icb.18.1348339806705; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wo9si1084667igc.1.2012.09.22.11.50.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by obbta14 with SMTP id ta14so5476040obb.18 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.11.104 with SMTP id p8mr6725046oeb.133.1348339806418; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.122.36 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <505DEFA3.1010608@gmx.de> References: <20111107073107.GI21492@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111110070826.GT19979@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4EBC1F61.5040806@gmail.com> <20111118081544.GB2500@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <57e78744-ca43-461d-a0ff-5627305923fd@googlegroups.com> <20120714203726.GF30080@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <8f7c8ee6-3529-42cd-8b37-b1647295bba4@googlegroups.com> <11d882eb-8fd3-4e20-afc9-80dda2fc128a@googlegroups.com> <3222e614-449e-4885-a499-ba60ad7485d3@googlegroups.com> <505DEFA3.1010608@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:50:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words, sort of: catlu vs. zgana From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1fcf232b8b704ca4ed31e X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb1fcf232b8b704ca4ed31e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The whole point was that this approach has issues, or at least can be viewed as having issues. Frankly that point has some substance to it. Events don't emit or reflect light, so in a strict sense they cannot be "seen". Arguably {viska} should be our word for strict "seeing". mu'o mi'e la latro'a On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:04 PM, selpa'i wrote: > Am 22.09.2012 19:02, schrieb Ian Johnson: > > {mi viska lo plise noi farlu}. With some more twiddling you can force >> simultaneity if you care about it. >> > > Or just "mi viska lo nu lo plise cu farlu". > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > -- > pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo > > do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u > .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u > ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu > .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi > gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi > .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/lojban?hl=3Den . > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --e89a8fb1fcf232b8b704ca4ed31e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The whole point was that this approach has issues, or at least can be viewe= d as having issues. Frankly that point has some substance to it. Events don= 't emit or reflect light, so in a strict sense they cannot be "see= n". Arguably {viska} should be our word for strict "seeing".=

mu'o mi'e la latro'a

On S= at, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:04 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote= :
Am 22.09.2012 19:02, schrieb Ian Johnson:
{mi viska lo plise noi farlu}. With some more twiddling you can force simul= taneity if you care about it.

Or just "mi viska lo nu lo plise cu farlu".

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u
=C2=A0 =C2=A0.i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u
ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu
=C2=A0 =C2=A0.i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi
gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0.i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku
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