Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:60948) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TGA8O-0005vr-Bx; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:59:53 -0700 Received: by qabg14 with SMTP id g14sf2654508qab.16 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:59:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=SoX5T7XhBPkfHpM1M6HoOcZ0uhKKF6hUHJ9rHb1eR8Y=; b=x6gqMdHDyhLq5S9faMfE93DOBpW/lt/rvUg7/s5rIKEmlErskIhgRHk+iQeM4DuO8Y ABeQNrv9K6h0Mk2Fw3Xg1nTFWk0P/8qnrbulWZ99ak8lneMiSMLye363tuLmqWUsGo5V zTjo72vzdh2IDlzPfUqcPn5bHmmt68rmoMOS+G8jpXdux4cc5+NyLyQ/eranSdLEHjxK pxZ+uc3DmjfUE6LPtZk4RCtzFnIOKchEPMgyGIKW3rNU9Zuf56W4jPJXEDjiaGC2Y/jC 5achrXcEZR3UCf2Yzpiqc74s8Khpm8WrrYLtDZ5QqNZj96TdLHK+ZVs3rhGjxl811s9v CPcQ== Received: by 10.52.72.197 with SMTP id f5mr275449vdv.17.1348498777496; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:59:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.92.107 with SMTP id cl11ls4136876vdb.4.gmail; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.156.115 with SMTP id wd19mr1811283vdb.2.1348498777039; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:59:36 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <1804837.0ZoKyyodFy@caracal> Subject: Re: [lojban] voi MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_127_4078252.1348498776748" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_127_4078252.1348498776748 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:14:04 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote: > > > > On 23 September 2012 01:33, la gleki >wrote: > >> >> >> On Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:44:42 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote: >>> >>> If it's being used to restrict a referent set based on a >>> subjective/uncertain claim, then it's certainly alright. >>> However, voi can probably be substituted with {poi pe'i} or {poi >>> ju'oru'e}. Still, it's shorter. >>> >> >> Bring him to the* la selpa'i* 's side doi la tsani ;) >> >> I don't really know what selpa'i 's beliefs about voi are... so I don't > get it, .u'u. > About {lo} in general and that {le} and therefore {voi} are useless. > > .i mi'e la tsani mu'o > > >> >> >>> >>> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o >>> >>> On 22 September 2012 07:54, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> >>>> Is this an appropriate use of voi?: "ta voi citka lo bambusa cu >>>> cionmau", >>>> pointing at a baby panda. Baby pandas don't eat bamboo; they drink milk >>>> like >>>> any other mammal. >>>> >>>> Pierre >>>> -- >>>> ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+un...@** >>>> googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>> group/lojban?hl=en . >>>> >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/6WDxF8bqMqsJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/3UJIVuXW9IMJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_127_4078252.1348498776748 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:14:04 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote:

On= 23 September 2012 01:33, la gleki <gleki.is...@= gmail.com> wrote:


On Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:44:42 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote:=
If it's being used to restrict a re= ferent set based on a subjective/uncertain claim, then it's certainly alrig= ht.
However, voi can probably be substituted with {poi pe'i} or {poi ju'oru'e}.= Still, it's shorter.

Bring him= to the la selpa'i 's side doi la tsani ;)

I don't really know what selpa'i 's belief= s about voi are... so I don't get it, .u'u.
About {lo} in general and that {le} and therefore {voi} are us= eless.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o
 
 

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 22 September 2012 07:54, Pierre Abbat <ph...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
Is this an appropriate use of voi= ?: "ta voi citka lo bambusa cu cionmau",
pointing at a baby panda. Baby pandas don't eat bamboo; they drink milk lik= e
any other mammal.

Pierre
--
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji

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