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On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:56:39 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:
>
> Awesome Lindar, thank you for your replies. 
>>
>
> I'm just Regular Lindar. Awesome Lindar is on holiday after translating an 
> entire game in a week. 
>  
>
>> I'd like to outline a problem I have right now and see how much 
>> overlap there is with your ideas for this wiki. 
>>
>
> My ideas stop at, "It'd be neat if I could update the news on the front 
> page of lojban.org without having to permanently erase the old news or do 
> crazy shit like that. Also I understand MediaWiki mark-up better than 
> whatever crap this is. I'd actually make/edit pages if we used... pretty 
> much anything else.".  I'm not doing any of the work, design, etc. I'm very 
> loosely supervising the project by fiat. Anybody is welcome to challenge me 
> for supervisory.
>

Note that now it has "[Show RichTextEditor]" link when you switch to edit 
mode of any page. It toggles visual rich text editor so you sometimes don't 
need to know any mediawiki syntax. This doesn't apply to pages with 
templates, though.

 
>
>> I was recently invited to work on opencog[1].  Specifically I was 
>> asked to modify my parser, jbogenturfa'i[2], to provide Lojban 
>> abstract syntax trees to OpenCog to support the Natural Language 
>> Processing (NLP) research happening there. 
>>
>
> Neat. 
>  
>
>> If I'm going to succeed in making Lojban part of OpenCog, I need to 
>> provide reference quality context sensitive help for the grammar and 
>> vocabulary so a researcher can make sense of what they're looking at, 
>> above. 
>>
>> This could all be done with mediawiki: I essentially need a grammar 
>> dictionary and grammar reference rolled into one, all linked together 
>> using some templates.
>>
>
> Neat.
>  
>
>> Is this sort of thing compatible with what you have in mind?  Something 
>> I could use to programatically link parts of a Lojban abstract syntax 
>> tree to pages that answer questions like "WTF is KOhA?" 
>>
>> -Alan 
>>
>
> From my limited understanding of anything that sounds like it might also 
> be what I wanted, but maybe not, and likely is or isn't, but mostly you 
> should do whatever you want, provided I don't have to actually do anything 
> or put forth any effort.
>

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<br><br>On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:56:39 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote=
:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">Awesome Lindar, thank you for your replies.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm just Regular Lindar. Awesome Linda=
r is on holiday after translating an entire game in a week.&nbsp;</div><div=
>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-lef=
t:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'd like to outline a =
problem I have right now and see how much
<br>overlap there is with your ideas for this wiki.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>My ideas stop at, "It'd be neat if I c=
ould update the news on the front page of <a href=3D"http://lojban.org" tar=
get=3D"_blank">lojban.org</a> without having to permanently erase the old n=
ews or do crazy shit like that. Also I understand MediaWiki mark-up better =
than whatever crap this is. I'd actually make/edit pages if we used... pret=
ty much anything else.". &nbsp;I'm not doing any of the work, design, etc. =
I'm very loosely supervising the project by fiat. Anybody is welcome to cha=
llenge me for supervisory.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Note that =
now it has "[Show RichTextEditor]" link when you switch to edit mode of any=
 page. It toggles visual rich text editor so you sometimes don't need to kn=
ow any mediawiki syntax. This doesn't apply to pages with templates, though=
.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;=
margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div>&nb=
sp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I was recently invited to =
work on opencog[1]. &nbsp;Specifically I was
<br>asked to modify my parser, jbogenturfa'i[2], to provide Lojban
<br>abstract syntax trees to OpenCog to support the Natural Language
<br>Processing (NLP) research happening there.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Neat.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If I'm going to succeed in making Lojba=
n part of OpenCog, I need to
<br>provide reference quality context sensitive help for the grammar and
<br>vocabulary so a researcher can make sense of what they're looking at,
<br>above.
<br>
<br>This could all be done with mediawiki: I essentially need a grammar
<br>dictionary and grammar reference rolled into one, all linked together
<br>using some templates.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Neat.</div><d=
iv>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-l=
eft:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Is this sort of thin=
g compatible with what you have in mind? &nbsp;Something
<br>I could use to programatically link parts of a Lojban abstract syntax
<br>tree to pages that answer questions like "WTF is KOhA?"
<br>
<br>-Alan
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>From my limited understanding of anyth=
ing that sounds like it might also be what I wanted, but maybe not, and lik=
ely is or isn't, but mostly you should do whatever you want, provided I don=
't have to actually do anything or put forth any effort.<br></div></blockqu=
ote>

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