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On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> We have gismu for "ant" and "bee/wasp". Both ants and bees are Aculeata,
> hymenopterans with stingers (not all Aculeata actually sting). Aculeata
> contains three superfamilies: Apoidea (bees and sphecoid wasps),
> Chrysidoidea
> (more wasps), and Vespoidea (more wasps and ants). I've thought of using
> "rulbi'e" to distinguish bees, but there are non-bee wasps which pollinate
> flowers, such as fig wasps.
>

 That would be(e) a problem because "bi'e" is the rafsi for brife, not
bifce...


>
> The other suborder of Hymenoptera is Symphyta, which don't have a wasp
> waist.
> They are called sawflies; their larvae look like caterpillars, except that
> they
> don't have a gap between prolegs and legs. What should we call them in
> Lojban?
>

  tsubifce or planybifce?

      --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at=
 12:14 AM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.o=
ptus.nu" target=3D"_blank">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">
We have gismu for &quot;ant&quot; and &quot;bee/wasp&quot;. Both ants and b=
ees are Aculeata,<br>
hymenopterans with stingers (not all Aculeata actually sting). Aculeata<br>
contains three superfamilies: Apoidea (bees and sphecoid wasps), Chrysidoid=
ea<br>
(more wasps), and Vespoidea (more wasps and ants). I&#39;ve thought of usin=
g<br>
&quot;rulbi&#39;e&quot; to distinguish bees, but there are non-bee wasps wh=
ich pollinate<br>
flowers, such as fig wasps.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=A0That wou=
ld be(e) a problem because &quot;bi&#39;e&quot; is the rafsi for brife, not=
 bifce...</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
The other suborder of Hymenoptera is Symphyta, which don&#39;t have a wasp =
waist.<br>
They are called sawflies; their larvae look like caterpillars, except that =
they<br>
don&#39;t have a gap between prolegs and legs. What should we call them in =
Lojban?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=A0 tsubifce or planybifce?</di=
v><div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div><div>=A0</div></div></div>

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