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On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:52:40 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:
>
> Thank you. I have three questions. What sort of things should I write in 
> that wiki? How do I say 'What sort of things should I write in that wiki?' 
> (or a less non-native rephrasing) in Lojban? Are you going to copy the 
> lojban.org tiki into the wiki for a start?



Sorry for not explaining everything earlier.
I know of only one active member of the LLG. It's Lindar. When I had 
discussed the problem of Twiki nobody agreed to help me. But when J. 
Cameron and Lindar said the same thing things started developing quickly 
and this wiki was born.

1. I'm not sure if this server is stable. Although regular backups is a 
must in any case. Mirroring is highly desirable as well (not only for the 
wiki, e.g. vlasisku was down earlier today. Again!)

2. I thought of migrating from Twiki to Mediawiki at first. But now I doubt 
it will be good. What for? Should we export all those stupid unreadable 
pages to this MediaWiki?
It'll change nothing. Read Twiki if you can decipher ugly formatting of 
discussions in it and discussions with no summaries and solutions seen.

*Instead let's write the wiki from scratch. *Of course, we will export *Wave 
lessons, texts for the corpus (like pokemon, snime blabi* etc.).
However, we won't delete Twiki. We'll just put redirects to the new wiki 
there. However, Mediawiki will have absolutely no redirects to the old wiki.
Mediawiki will have all the stuff that is absolutely necessary for learning 
and speaking lojban. When visitors of mediawiki become jbocre then can 
continue the process of manually rewriting old TWiki pages and putting them 
in a concise format to the new wiki.
I.e. we will be freezing the old wiki page by page.

 

> (I don't know if there is a tikiwiki-mediawiki converter or what not.)
>
> iesk
>

Well, no excellent converters exist for that purpose. And I don't want any 
converters. Let's use our brains to rewrite the wiki.

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<br><br>On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:52:40 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:<blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-lef=
t: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Thank you. I have three questions. Wh=
at sort of things should I write in that wiki? How do I say 'What sort of t=
hings should I write in that wiki?' (or a less non-native rephrasing) in Lo=
jban? Are you going to copy the <a href=3D"http://lojban.org" target=3D"_bl=
ank">lojban.org</a> tiki into the wiki for a start?</blockquote><div><br></=
div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for not explaining everything earlier.</div><=
div>I know of only one active member of the LLG. It's Lindar. When I had di=
scussed the problem of Twiki nobody agreed to help me. But when J. Cameron =
and Lindar said the same thing things started developing quickly and this w=
iki was born.</div><div><br></div><div>1. I'm not sure if this server is st=
able. Although regular backups is a must in any case. Mirroring is highly d=
esirable as well (not only for the wiki, e.g. vlasisku was down earlier tod=
ay. Again!)</div><div><br></div><div>2. I thought of migrating from Twiki t=
o Mediawiki at first. But now I doubt it will be good. What for? Should we =
export all those stupid unreadable pages to this MediaWiki?</div><div>It'll=
 change nothing. Read Twiki if you can decipher ugly formatting of discussi=
ons in it and discussions with no summaries and solutions seen.</div><div><=
br></div><div><b>Instead let's write the wiki from scratch.&nbsp;</b>Of cou=
rse, we will export&nbsp;<b>Wave lessons, texts for the corpus (like pokemo=
n, snime blabi</b>&nbsp;etc.).</div><div>However, we won't delete Twiki. We=
'll just put redirects to the new wiki there. However, Mediawiki will have =
absolutely no redirects to the old wiki.</div><div>Mediawiki will have all =
the stuff that is absolutely necessary for learning and speaking lojban. Wh=
en visitors of mediawiki become jbocre then can continue the process of man=
ually rewriting old TWiki pages and putting them in a concise format to the=
 new wiki.</div><div>I.e. we will be freezing the old wiki page by page.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: =
1ex;"> (I don't know if there is a tikiwiki-mediawiki converter or what not=
.)<p>iesk</p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, no excellent converters=
 exist for that purpose. And I don't want any converters. Let's use our bra=
ins to rewrite the wiki.</div>

<p></p>

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