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How about {renvi}?

{morsi renvi saske} -> "death survival science" seems to capture the key
meanings; cold and body are incidental.

{mrore'iske}

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:05 AM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

> These terms may be helpful:
>  cold = lenku (lek)  body = xadni (xad)  science = saske (ske)  live =
> jmive (miv ji'e)
> I couldn't find a gismu for 'save', 'preserve', 'keep' (in the required
> sense), 'maintain'.
>
> "cold-body-science" - lekyxadyske
>
> stevo
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In a discussion on another mailing list, the topic of Lojban has come
>> up in passing; and, as the closest thing on that list to an expert
>> (which isn't all that close), I was asked what the Lojban for three
>> phrases was: "Watch out for the bus", "Call an ambulance", and "Call
>> his cryonics company".
>>
>> I can figure out the first two with only moderate effort (eg, "ckape!
>> .i sorprema'e!" sounds about right); but the third involves a concept
>> that I haven't found any existing translation for, and I haven't
>> managed to figure out a decent lujvo for. It's even trickier if I try
>> to come up with a word which would be as accurate as possible to the
>> beliefs of those who actually have signed up for cryonics with a hope
>> of a non-zero chance of eventual revival (Whether or not that belief
>> is justified isn't my concern at the moment, merely trying to properly
>> express it.), which makes mrori'i seem less appropriate to use as an
>> inspiration.
>>
>> Might you be able to offer any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your time,
>> --
>> DataPacRat
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>> vajni fo lo preti
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How about {renvi}?<br><br>{morsi renvi saske} -&gt; &quot;death survival sc=
ience&quot; seems to capture the key meanings; cold and body are incidental=
.<br><br>{mrore&#39;iske}<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 26,=
 2012 at 11:05 AM, MorphemeAddict <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l=
ytlesw@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lytlesw@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">These terms may be helpful:<div><table style=
=3D"border-collapse:collapse;width:54pt" border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cel=
lspacing=3D"0" width=3D"72">


 <colgroup><col style=3D"width:54pt" width=3D"72">
 </colgroup><tbody><tr style=3D"min-height:13.5pt" height=3D"18">
  <td style=3D"min-height:13.5pt;width:54pt" height=3D"18" width=3D"72">col=
d =3D lenku (lek)</td>
 </tr>
 <tr style=3D"min-height:13.5pt" height=3D"18">
  <td style=3D"min-height:13.5pt" height=3D"18">body =3D xadni (xad)</td>
 </tr>
 <tr style=3D"min-height:13.5pt" height=3D"18">
  <td style=3D"min-height:13.5pt" height=3D"18">science =3D saske (ske)</td=
>
 </tr>
 <tr style=3D"min-height:13.5pt" height=3D"18">
  <td style=3D"min-height:13.5pt" height=3D"18">live =3D jmive (miv ji&#39;=
e)</td>
 </tr></tbody></table><br>I couldn&#39;t find a gismu for &#39;save&#39;, &=
#39;preserve&#39;, &#39;keep&#39; (in the required sense), &#39;maintain&#3=
9;.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>&quot;cold-body-science&quot; - lekyxadyske=
</div>



<div><br></div><div>stevo<div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM, DataPacRat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:datapacrat@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">datapacrat@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

In a discussion on another mailing list, the topic of Lojban has come<br>
up in passing; and, as the closest thing on that list to an expert<br>
(which isn&#39;t all that close), I was asked what the Lojban for three<br>
phrases was: &quot;Watch out for the bus&quot;, &quot;Call an ambulance&quo=
t;, and &quot;Call<br>
his cryonics company&quot;.<br>
<br>
I can figure out the first two with only moderate effort (eg, &quot;ckape!<=
br>
.i sorprema&#39;e!&quot; sounds about right); but the third involves a conc=
ept<br>
that I haven&#39;t found any existing translation for, and I haven&#39;t<br=
>
managed to figure out a decent lujvo for. It&#39;s even trickier if I try<b=
r>
to come up with a word which would be as accurate as possible to the<br>
beliefs of those who actually have signed up for cryonics with a hope<br>
of a non-zero chance of eventual revival (Whether or not that belief<br>
is justified isn&#39;t my concern at the moment, merely trying to properly<=
br>
express it.), which makes mrori&#39;i seem less appropriate to use as an<br=
>
inspiration.<br>
<br>
Might you be able to offer any suggestions?<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you for your time,<br>
--<br>
DataPacRat<br>
lu .iacu&#39;i ma krinu lo du&#39;u .ei mi krici la&#39;e di&#39;u li&#39;u=
 traji lo ka<br>
vajni fo lo preti<br>
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