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[76.76.236.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o9sm6172092igd.7.2012.09.26.14.47.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <506377E4.4070504@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:47:16 -0500 From: vitci'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lujvo for 'Cryonics'? 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On 09/26/2012 12:07 PM, .arpis. wrote: > How about {renvi}? > > {morsi renvi saske} -> "death survival science" seems to capture the key > meanings; cold and body are incidental. > > {mrore'iske} > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:05 AM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > >> These terms may be helpful: >> cold = lenku (lek) body = xadni (xad) science = saske (ske) live = >> jmive (miv ji'e) >> I couldn't find a gismu for 'save', 'preserve', 'keep' (in the required >> sense), 'maintain'. >> >> "cold-body-science" - lekyxadyske >> >> stevo >> >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM, DataPacRat wrote: >> >>> In a discussion on another mailing list, the topic of Lojban has come >>> up in passing; and, as the closest thing on that list to an expert >>> (which isn't all that close), I was asked what the Lojban for three >>> phrases was: "Watch out for the bus", "Call an ambulance", and "Call >>> his cryonics company". >>> >>> I can figure out the first two with only moderate effort (eg, "ckape! >>> .i sorprema'e!" sounds about right); but the third involves a concept >>> that I haven't found any existing translation for, and I haven't >>> managed to figure out a decent lujvo for. It's even trickier if I try >>> to come up with a word which would be as accurate as possible to the >>> beliefs of those who actually have signed up for cryonics with a hope >>> of a non-zero chance of eventual revival (Whether or not that belief >>> is justified isn't my concern at the moment, merely trying to properly >>> express it.), which makes mrori'i seem less appropriate to use as an >>> inspiration. >>> >>> Might you be able to offer any suggestions? >>> >>> >>> Thank you for your time, >>> -- >>> DataPacRat >>> lu .iacu'i ma krinu lo du'u .ei mi krici la'e di'u li'u traji lo ka >>> vajni fo lo preti >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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