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On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>wrot=
e:

> stevo, look at this<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/QdZb0Cg2RhI/=
discussion>
> .


I didn't realize your list was part of this discussion last month. In the
original gismu list, the final vowels, and possibly also non-morphemic
endings like "en" or "er" in German "Magen", "R=C3=BCcken", "Becher" were l=
eft
off, just as you did for Russian =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BA=D0=B0 (potck-).

Thanks for the thread reminder.
stevo

>
> Thanks everyone for corrections.
>
>
> On Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:29:49 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:
>
>> Did you come up with this list yourself? What is its source?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>
>>> Language ISO-code | lojbanisation of translations of "kidney"  |  ratin=
g
>>> according to the updated method.
>>>
>>> cmn cen / centsan 0.246117399315609
>>> eng kidni          0.213872071597789
>>> spa rinion          0.094630165833114
>>> ara kulia          0.090023690444854
>>> hin gurd          0.084890760726507
>>> ben brik / kidni  0.05672545406686
>>> rus potck  0.051855751513556
>>> por rim          0.048828639115557
>>> jap dzinzo  0.03224532771782
>>> pun gurd          0.028691760989734
>>> deu niere          0.027375625164517
>>>
>>
>> German would be nir (final vowels are not considered, AIUI).
>>
>> stevo
>>
>> fra renion  0.024743353514083
>>>
>>> la .camgusmis. suggested fu'ivla for that. As we don't have algorithm
>>> for that I suggest
>>>
>>> {cenrini}
>>> - similar to Mandarin "=E8=82=BE - *shen*4", Romance [*rini*-] (Latin "=
ren"), a
>>> bit similar to [k*i*d*ni*], [b*ri*k], [dz*in*zo], [*ni*ere].
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, la gle=
ki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">

stevo, look at <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/QdZb0Cg2=
RhI/discussion" target=3D"_blank">this</a>.</blockquote><div><br></div><div=
>I didn&#39;t realize your list was part of this discussion last month. In =
the original gismu list, the final vowels, and possibly also non-morphemic =
endings like &quot;en&quot; or &quot;er&quot; in German &quot;Magen&quot;, =
&quot;R=C3=BCcken&quot;, &quot;Becher&quot; were left off, just as you did =
for Russian =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BA=D0=B0 <font><font color=3D"#232323" fa=
ce=3D"Arial, Verdana, Lucida, serif, sans"><span style=3D"line-height:20.66=
666603088379px">(potck-).</span></font></font></div>

<div><font><font color=3D"#232323" face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Lucida, serif, s=
ans"><span style=3D"line-height:20.66666603088379px"><br></span></font></fo=
nt></div><div><font><font color=3D"#232323" face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Lucida,=
 serif, sans"><span style=3D"line-height:20.66666603088379px">Thanks for th=
e thread reminder.=C2=A0</span></font></font></div>

<div><font color=3D"#232323" face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Lucida, serif, sans"><=
span style=3D"line-height:20.66666603088379px">stevo</span></font></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div><br></div><div>Thanks everyone for corrections.<div class=3D"im"><br><=
br>On Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:29:49 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:</div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"im">Did you come up with this list yourself? What is its sour=
ce?=C2=A0<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Thu,=
 Sep 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>gleki.is...@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Language ISO-code | lojbanisation of tr=
anslations of &quot;kidney&quot; =C2=A0| =C2=A0rating according to the upda=
ted method.</div>



<div><br></div><div>cmn<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>cen /=
=C2=A0centsan<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>0.246117399315609=
</div><div>eng<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>kidni<span style=
=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.21387=
2071597789</div>



<div>spa<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>rinion<span style=3D"w=
hite-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.0946301658=
33114</div><div>ara<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>kulia<span =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.=
090023690444854</div>



<div>hin<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>gurd<span style=3D"whi=
te-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.084890760726=
507</div><div>ben<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>brik / kidni<=
span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=C2=A00.05672545406686</div>



<div>rus<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>potck<span style=3D"wh=
ite-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=C2=A00.051855751513556</div><div>por<span styl=
e=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>rim<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">=
	</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.048828639115557</div>



<div>jap<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>dzinzo<span style=3D"w=
hite-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=C2=A00.03224532771782</div><div>pun<span styl=
e=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>gurd<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"=
>	</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.028691760989734</div>



<div>deu<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>niere<span style=3D"wh=
ite-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.02737562516=
4517</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>German would be nir (final vowel=
s are not considered, AIUI).</div>



<div><br></div><div>stevo</div><div><br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><div>fra<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</s=
pan>renion<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=C2=A00.024743353514=
083</div>



<div><br></div><div>la .camgusmis. suggested fu&#39;ivla for that. As we do=
n&#39;t have algorithm for that I suggest</div><div><br></div><div>{cenrini=
}</div><div>- similar to Mandarin &quot;=E8=82=BE - <b>shen</b>4&quot;, Rom=
ance [<b>rini</b>-] (Latin &quot;ren&quot;), a bit similar to [k<b>i</b>d<b=
>ni</b>], [b<b>ri</b>k], [dz<b>in</b>zo], [<b>ni</b>ere].</div>



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