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On Friday, September 28, 2012 7:23:21 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:
>
>
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> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com<javascr=
ipt:>
> > wrote:
>
>> stevo, look at this<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/QdZb0Cg2RhI=
/discussion>
>> .
>
>
> I didn't realize your list was part of this discussion last month. In the=
=20
> original gismu list, the final vowels, and possibly also non-morphemic=20
> endings like "en" or "er" in German "Magen", "R=C3=BCcken", "Becher" were=
 left=20
> off, just as you did for Russian =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BA=D0=B0 (potck-).
>


Please, make corrections to the list. (Although I wouldn't remove "m" from=
=20
"rim". We should somehow retain nasalisation, may be by changing to "ren").=
=20

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> Thanks for the thread reminder.=20
> stevo
>
>>
>> Thanks everyone for corrections.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:29:49 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:
>>
>>> Did you come up with this list yourself? What is its source?=20
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com>wrote=
:
>>>
>>>> Language ISO-code | lojbanisation of translations of "kidney"  |=20
>>>>  rating according to the updated method.
>>>>
>>>> cmn cen / centsan 0.246117399315609
>>>> eng kidni          0.213872071597789
>>>> spa rinion          0.094630165833114
>>>> ara kulia          0.090023690444854
>>>> hin gurd          0.084890760726507
>>>> ben brik / kidni  0.05672545406686
>>>> rus potck  0.051855751513556
>>>> por rim          0.048828639115557
>>>> jap dzinzo  0.03224532771782
>>>> pun gurd          0.028691760989734
>>>> deu niere          0.027375625164517
>>>>
>>>
>>> German would be nir (final vowels are not considered, AIUI).
>>>
>>> stevo
>>>
>>> fra renion  0.024743353514083
>>>>
>>>> la .camgusmis. suggested fu'ivla for that. As we don't have algorithm=
=20
>>>> for that I suggest
>>>>
>>>> {cenrini}
>>>> - similar to Mandarin "=E8=82=BE - *shen*4", Romance [*rini*-] (Latin =
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<br><br>On Friday, September 28, 2012 7:23:21 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:<blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-lef=
t: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"j=
avascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"Ibq2_ZGDU28J">gleki.=
is...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

stevo, look at <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/QdZb0Cg2=
RhI/discussion" target=3D"_blank">this</a>.</blockquote><div><br></div><div=
>I didn't realize your list was part of this discussion last month. In the =
original gismu list, the final vowels, and possibly also non-morphemic endi=
ngs like "en" or "er" in German "Magen", "R=C3=BCcken", "Becher" were left =
off, just as you did for Russian =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BA=D0=B0 <font><font=
 color=3D"#232323" face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Lucida, serif, sans"><span style=
=3D"line-height:20.66666603088379px">(potck-).</span></font></font></div></=
div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Please, make correction=
s to the list. (Although I wouldn't remove "m" from "rim". We should someho=
w retain nasalisation, may be by changing to "ren").&nbsp;</div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">

<div><font><font color=3D"#232323" face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Lucida, serif, s=
ans"><span style=3D"line-height:20.66666603088379px"><br></span></font></fo=
nt></div><div><font><font color=3D"#232323" face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Lucida,=
 serif, sans"><span style=3D"line-height:20.66666603088379px">Thanks for th=
e thread reminder.&nbsp;</span></font></font></div>

<div><font color=3D"#232323" face=3D"Arial, Verdana, Lucida, serif, sans"><=
span style=3D"line-height:20.66666603088379px">stevo</span></font></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div><br></div><div>Thanks everyone for corrections.<div><br><br>On Thursda=
y, September 27, 2012 10:29:49 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:</div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div>Did you come up with this list yourself? What is its source?&nbsp;<br>=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM,=
 la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>gleki.is...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Language ISO-code | lojbanisation of tr=
anslations of "kidney" &nbsp;| &nbsp;rating according to the updated method=
.</div>



<div><br></div><div>cmn<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>cen /&n=
bsp;centsan<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>0.246117399315609</=
div><div>eng<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>kidni<span style=
=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.21387=
2071597789</div>



<div>spa<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>rinion<span style=3D"w=
hite-space:pre-wrap">	</span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.0946301658=
33114</div><div>ara<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>kulia<span =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.=
090023690444854</div>



<div>hin<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>gurd<span style=3D"whi=
te-space:pre-wrap">	</span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.084890760726=
507</div><div>ben<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>brik / kidni<=
span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>&nbsp;0.05672545406686</div>



<div>rus<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>potck<span style=3D"wh=
ite-space:pre-wrap">	</span>&nbsp;0.051855751513556</div><div>por<span styl=
e=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>rim<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">=
	</span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.048828639115557</div>



<div>jap<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>dzinzo<span style=3D"w=
hite-space:pre-wrap">	</span>&nbsp;0.03224532771782</div><div>pun<span styl=
e=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>gurd<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"=
>	</span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.028691760989734</div>



<div>deu<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>niere<span style=3D"wh=
ite-space:pre-wrap">	</span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.02737562516=
4517</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>German would be nir (final vowel=
s are not considered, AIUI).</div>



<div><br></div><div>stevo</div><div><br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div><div>fra<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>renion<sp=
an style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>&nbsp;0.024743353514083</div>



<div><br></div><div>la .camgusmis. suggested fu'ivla for that. As we don't =
have algorithm for that I suggest</div><div><br></div><div>{cenrini}</div><=
div>- similar to Mandarin "=E8=82=BE - <b>shen</b>4", Romance [<b>rini</b>-=
] (Latin "ren"), a bit similar to [k<b>i</b>d<b>ni</b>], [b<b>ri</b>k], [dz=
<b>in</b>zo], [<b>ni</b>ere].</div>



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