On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:30 AM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 a= t 10:02 AM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> = wrote:

But lojban, unlike English, has a culture of not using more specific a word= than necessary to get meaning across, and since I expect that if, suddenly= , a company emerged that depended on relativistic speeds to solve the same = problem that modern cryonics does, I don't expect the words used to des= cribe the processes would be different (people are lazy and don't care = about details), but suddenly, cold is not just incidental but incorrect.

But the company that relied on relativistic speed= (or anything else besides cold) would use a different word to disociate it= self from the cryogenics (or cryonics) people and to provide a unique/bette= r handle for people to use when referring to the new process.=A0

stevo=A0

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:28 PM, MorphemeAdd= ict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:07 PM, .a= rpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:

How about {renvi}?

{morsi renvi saske} -> "death survival sc= ience" seems to capture the key meanings; cold and body are incidental= .

{mrore'iske}

I don't= think cold is incidental to cryonics; the whole word (in English) is based= on the idea of cold. For a more general term of life extension or revival,= {mrore'iske} is fine, but for cryonics in particular there should be s= ome indication of the use of low temperatures.=A0

stevo=A0

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Morp= hemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

These terms may be helpful:

col= d =3D lenku (lek)

body =3D xadni (xad)

science =3D saske (ske)

live =3D jmive (miv ji'= e)

I couldn't find a gismu for 'save', &= #39;preserve', 'keep' (in the required sense), 'maintain= 9;.=A0

"cold-body-science" - lekyxadyske=

stevo

On Wed, S= ep 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote:

In a discussion on another mailing list, the topic of Lojban has come
up in passing; and, as the closest thing on that list to an expert
(which isn't all that close), I was asked what the Lojban for three
phrases was: "Watch out for the bus", "Call an ambulance&quo= t;, and "Call
his cryonics company".

I can figure out the first two with only moderate effort (eg, "ckape!<= br> .i sorprema'e!" sounds about right); but the third involves a conc= ept
that I haven't found any existing translation for, and I haven't managed to figure out a decent lujvo for. It's even trickier if I try to come up with a word which would be as accurate as possible to the
beliefs of those who actually have signed up for cryonics with a hope
of a non-zero chance of eventual revival (Whether or not that belief
is justified isn't my concern at the moment, merely trying to properly<= br> express it.), which makes mrori'i seem less appropriate to use as an inspiration.

Might you be able to offer any suggestions?

Thank you for your time,
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