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Am 30.09.2012 09:56, schrieb la gleki:
> These examples are pretty clear. No ambiguity. Now let's open Chapter=20
> 11.4
> http://dag.github.com/cll/11/4/
>
> 4.9)    la djan. cu zmadu la djordj. le ka mi prami ce'u
>         John exceeds George in-the property-of (I love X).
>
>
> This is something very strange.

The ce'u in zmadu3 refers to both zmadu1 and zmadu2, individually.

> Let's imagine that I'm a boy and I meet a girl. I tell her
>
> {do melbi mi lo ka ce'u clani}
>
> Does {ce'u} refer to {do} or {mi}?

It refers to melbi1. melbi2 is just a subjective observer. The=20
definition makes that somewhat clear "x1 is beautiful in aspect x3".

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

doi. m=C4=8Dlbi mlen=C4=9B'u
    .i do c=C5=95tlu ki'u
ma fe la x=C5=95mpre u(u
    .i do t=C4=9Bnsa c=C5=95rmi
gi'e s=C4=9Brji se t=C5=95rmi
    .i tai. bo pu c=C4=9Btka lo gr=C5=95na ku

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><tt>Am 30.09.2012 09:56, schrieb la
        gleki:</tt><tt><br>
      </tt></div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:f844c363-6f7f-4f2e-80fb-8428cb9ab3f4@googlegroups.com"
      type="cite"><tt>These examples are pretty clear. No ambiguity. Now
        let's open Chapter 11.4</tt>
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            href="http://dag.github.com/cll/11/4/">http://dag.github.com/cll/11/4/</a></tt><tt><br>
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        <pre style="background-color: rgb(242, 242, 242); padding: 0.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><a moz-do-not-send="true" id="e9" name="e9">4.9)</a>   la djan. cu zmadu la djordj. le ka mi prami ce'u
       John exceeds George in-the property-of (I love X).</pre>
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      <div><tt><br>
        </tt></div>
      <div><tt><br>
        </tt></div>
      <div><tt>This is something very strange.</tt></div>
    </blockquote>
    <tt><br>
    </tt><tt>The ce'u in zmadu3 refers to both zmadu1 and zmadu2,
      individually.</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt><br>
    </tt>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:f844c363-6f7f-4f2e-80fb-8428cb9ab3f4@googlegroups.com"
      type="cite">
      <div><tt>Let's imagine that I'm a boy and I meet a girl. I tell
          her</tt></div>
      <div><tt><br>
        </tt></div>
      <div><tt>{do melbi mi lo ka ce'u clani}</tt></div>
      <div><tt><br>
        </tt></div>
      <div><tt>Does {ce'u} refer to {do} or {mi}?</tt></div>
    </blockquote>
    <tt><br>
    </tt><tt>It refers to melbi1. melbi2 is just a subjective observer.
      The definition makes that somewhat clear "x1 is beautiful in
      aspect x3".</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>mu'o mi'e la selpa'i</tt><tt><br>
    </tt>
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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

do&#7883; m&egrave;lbi mlen&igrave;'u
   .i do c&agrave;tlu ki'u
ma fe la x&agrave;mpre &#365;u
   .i do t&igrave;nsa c&agrave;rmi
gi'e s&igrave;rji se t&agrave;rmi
   .i ta&#7883; bo pu c&igrave;tka lo gr&agrave;na ku</pre>
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