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It'd be nice if the gimste mentioned to which higher-level sumti places the
ce'u referred to, much like guaspi's gimste, but that isn't the case.

On 30 September 2012 00:56, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://dag.github.com/cll/7/11/
>
> 11.1)  le ka ce'u gleki
>        the property-of (X being-happy)
>        the property of being happy
>        happiness
>
> and
>
> 11.2)  le ka gleki ce'u
>        the property-of (being-happy about-X)
>        the property of being that which someone is happy about
>
>
>
> These examples are pretty clear. No ambiguity. Now let's open Chapter 11.4
> http://dag.github.com/cll/11/4/
>
> 4.9)   la djan. cu zmadu la djordj. le ka mi prami ce'u
>        John exceeds George in-the property-of (I love X).
>
>
>
> This is something very strange.
> Let's imagine that I'm a boy and I meet a girl. I tell her
>
> {do melbi mi lo ka ce'u clani}
>
>
Does {ce'u} refer to {do} or {mi}?
>
>
It definitely refers to melbi1. If x3 is the aspect in which x1 is
beautiful, it's pretty clear that it's the x1 that is referred to by the
argument place in clani.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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It&#39;d be nice if the gimste mentioned to which higher-level sumti places=
 the ce&#39;u referred to, much like guaspi&#39;s gimste, but that isn&#39;=
t the case.<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 30 September 2012 00:56, =
la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><pre style=3D"background-color:rgb(242,=
242,242);padding:0.4em"><a name=3D"13a162da629d2e37_e1"></a><a href=3D"http=
://dag.github.com/cll/7/11/" target=3D"_blank">http://dag.github.com/cll/7/=
11/</a><br>

</pre><pre style=3D"background-color:rgb(242,242,242);padding:0.4em"><a nam=
e=3D"13a162da629d2e37_e1">11.1)</a>  le ka ce&#39;u gleki
       the property-of (X being-happy)
       the property of being happy
       happiness
</pre><span style=3D"font-size:medium;font-family:sans-serif">and</span><pr=
e style=3D"background-color:rgb(242,242,242);padding:0.4em"><a name=3D"13a1=
62da629d2e37_e2">11.2)</a>  le ka gleki ce&#39;u
       the property-of (being-happy about-X)
       the property of being that which someone is happy about</pre></div><=
div><br></div><div><br></div><div>These examples are pretty clear. No ambig=
uity. Now let&#39;s open Chapter 11.4</div><div><a href=3D"http://dag.githu=
b.com/cll/11/4/" target=3D"_blank">http://dag.github.com/cll/11/4/</a><br>

</div><div><br></div><div><pre style=3D"background-color:rgb(242,242,242);p=
adding:0.4em"><a name=3D"13a162da629d2e37_e9">4.9)</a>   la djan. cu zmadu =
la djordj. le ka mi prami ce&#39;u
       John exceeds George in-the property-of (I love X).</pre></div><div><=
br></div><div><br></div><div>This is something very strange.</div><div>Let&=
#39;s imagine that I&#39;m a boy and I meet a girl. I tell her</div><div>

<br></div><div>{do melbi mi lo ka ce&#39;u clani}</div><div>=A0</div></bloc=
kquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div></div><div>Does {ce&#39;u} refer=
 to {do} or {mi}?</div>

<div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It definitely refers to mel=
bi1. If x3 is the aspect in which x1 is beautiful, it&#39;s pretty clear th=
at it&#39;s the x1 that is referred to by the argument place in clani.</div=
>

<div><br></div><div>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o</div></div></div>

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