Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:42574) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TJY34-0005Xu-G9; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:08:23 -0700 Received: by ghbf15 with SMTP id f15sf7667256ghb.16 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:08:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DmodQ8PVCerhAxPbDgw5WtiP79JwEeOBv531LbVVXLY=; b=ZmizEAserRsjo42FJ2vXpF+1aKZshLq0q8Qhg2T4OHSCe+ZDYAfDOndSUe4T2tMHST eOPgeo+qXF8SDPBFzvudJxU2Ps4oA5d15z490Npu4JPegG07UNi7cg8rGOtJYTPAC7w6 WzKxhiwqyqtlPWeZ00aS+QOdIbDiDsTokHO6SpbL5EBMMjUSf37G1G/aIs+qJBWn3gkH 7o4ROoJduBrZil5PJht85DtvH3PnYwwTo9OWgUSdzD3g2zGqz2ACptxbO0GYZU1zjGb0 DMfCZ0+lX82QN1gwQZHOl0wDOA9y8zswo+jXpMMF8UZVHXkcFutWqpuJyUZnzC0ctCOl Mu6Q== Received: by 10.68.229.231 with SMTP id st7mr1795520pbc.2.1349305687722; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:08:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.222.169 with SMTP id qn9ls8259681pbc.4.gmail; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.212.99 with SMTP id nj3mr1813657pbc.20.1349305686657; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:08:05 -0700 (PDT) From: ".djo,is." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <77f30ed2-9c5f-4238-8153-272800200a86@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <6468a0a7-357d-4f07-9f02-1da61a75374c@googlegroups.com> References: <20121001200454.GV1589@nvg.org> <5069F9D3.804@gmx.de> <58680262-ade6-45c0-bd7b-875fcc55a353@googlegroups.com> <6468a0a7-357d-4f07-9f02-1da61a75374c@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] What place of nesting bridi {ce'u} refers to? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: joey.kl@mac.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22_13778360.1349305686054" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_22_13778360.1349305686054 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:54:13 AM UTC-7, la gleki wrote: > I want to eat an apple = I want that I eat an apple [a really awkward > lojban-style sentence] > {mi djica lo ka citka??) = mi djica lo nu mi/vo'a citka lo plise > People seem to use {nu} or {ka} a lot of times when {zu'o} would be more useful. At least my understanding is that {zu'o} has a {ce'u} place, as "giving" {lo zu'o dunda} and "receiving" {lo zu'o te dunda} are certainly two different activities. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/F6ie7oM2sQAJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_22_13778360.1349305686054 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:54:13 AM UTC-7, la gleki wrote:
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I want to eat an apple &n= bsp;  =3D I want that I eat an apple [a really awkward lojban-style se= ntence]
{mi djica lo ka citka??)  =3D mi djica lo nu mi/vo'a= citka lo plise

People seem to use {nu} or {ka} a lot of times when {zu'o} would be more useful= . At least my understanding is that {zu'o} has a {ce'u} place, as "giving" {lo zu'o dunda} and "receiving" {lo zu'o te dunda} are certainly= two different activities.

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