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Am 04.10.2012 01:08, schrieb .djo,is.:
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:54:13 AM UTC-7, la gleki wrote:
>
>     I want to eat an apple    =3D I want that I eat an apple [a really
>     awkward lojban-style sentence]
>     {mi djica lo ka citka??)  =3D mi djica lo nu mi/vo'a citka lo plise
>
>
> People seem to use {nu} or {ka} a lot of times when {zu'o} would be=20
> more useful. At least my understanding is that {zu'o} has a {ce'u}=20
> place, as "giving" {lo zu'o dunda} and "receiving" {lo zu'o te dunda}=20
> are certainly two different activities.

zu'o is a subtype of nu, which is a general abstractor for events. nu=20
unites/stands in for pu'u, zu'o, mu'e and za'i. It saves you a syllable=20
and the trouble of picking the right one of those four or of having to=20
narrow it down. If zu'o had a ce'u, then so would nu.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

doi. m=C4=8Dlbi mlen=C4=9B'u
    .i do c=C5=95tlu ki'u
ma fe la x=C5=95mpre u(u
    .i do t=C4=9Bnsa c=C5=95rmi
gi'e s=C4=9Brji se t=C5=95rmi
    .i tai. bo pu c=C4=9Btka lo gr=C5=95na ku

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><tt>Am 04.10.2012 01:08, schrieb
        .djo,is.:</tt><tt><br>
      </tt></div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:77f30ed2-9c5f-4238-8153-272800200a86@googlegroups.com"
      type="cite"><tt><br>
      </tt><tt><br>
      </tt><tt>On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:54:13 AM UTC-7, la gleki
        wrote:</tt><tt><br>
      </tt>
      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left:
        0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
        <div><tt>I want to eat an apple &nbsp; &nbsp;= I want that I eat an apple
            [a really awkward lojban-style sentence]</tt></div>
        <div><tt>{mi djica lo ka citka??) &nbsp;= mi djica lo nu mi/vo'a
            citka lo plise</tt></div>
      </blockquote>
      <div><tt><br>
        </tt><tt>People seem to use {</tt><tt>nu</tt><tt>} or {</tt><tt>ka</tt><tt>}
          a lot of times when {</tt><tt>zu'o</tt><tt>} would be more
          useful. At least my understanding is that {</tt><tt>zu'o</tt><tt>}
          has a {</tt><tt>ce'u</tt><tt>} place, as "giving" {</tt><tt>lo
          zu'o dunda</tt><tt>} and "receiving" {</tt><tt>lo zu'o te
          dunda</tt><tt>} are certainly two different activities.</tt><tt><br>
        </tt></div>
    </blockquote>
    <tt><br>
    </tt><tt>zu'o is a subtype of nu, which is a general abstractor for
      events. nu unites/stands in for pu'u, zu'o, mu'e and za'i. It
      saves you a syllable and the trouble of picking the right one of
      those four or of having to narrow it down. If zu'o had a ce'u,
      then so would nu.</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>mu'o mi'e la selpa'i</tt><tt><br>
    </tt>
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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

do&#7883; m&egrave;lbi mlen&igrave;'u
   .i do c&agrave;tlu ki'u
ma fe la x&agrave;mpre &#365;u
   .i do t&igrave;nsa c&agrave;rmi
gi'e s&igrave;rji se t&agrave;rmi
   .i ta&#7883; bo pu c&igrave;tka lo gr&agrave;na ku</pre>
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