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On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:42:40 PM UTC-7, selpa'i wrote:
>
>  Am 04.10.2012 01:08, schrieb .djo,is.:
>  
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:54:13 AM UTC-7, la gleki wrote:
>  
>> I want to eat an apple    = I want that I eat an apple [a really awkward 
>> lojban-style sentence]
>> {mi djica lo ka citka??)  = mi djica lo nu mi/vo'a citka lo plise
>>
>
> People seem to use {nu} or {ka} a lot of times when {zu'o} would be more 
> useful. At least my understanding is that {zu'o} has a {ce'u} place, as 
> "giving" {lo zu'o dunda} and "receiving" {lo zu'o te dunda} are certainly 
> two different activities.
>  
>
> zu'o is a subtype of nu, which is a general abstractor for events. nu 
> unites/stands in for pu'u, zu'o, mu'e and za'i. It saves you a syllable and 
> the trouble of picking the right one of those four or of having to narrow 
> it down. If zu'o had a ce'u, then so would nu.
>

Shoot. Looks like I've been totally misusing it. 

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<br><br>On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:42:40 PM UTC-7, selpa'i wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div><tt>Am 04.10.2012 01:08, schrieb
        .djo,is.:</tt><tt><br>
      </tt></div>
    <blockquote type="cite"><tt><br>
      </tt><tt><br>
      </tt><tt>On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:54:13 AM UTC-7, la gleki
        wrote:</tt><tt><br>
      </tt>
      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
        <div><tt>I want to eat an apple &nbsp; &nbsp;= I want that I eat an apple
            [a really awkward lojban-style sentence]</tt></div>
        <div><tt>{mi djica lo ka citka??) &nbsp;= mi djica lo nu mi/vo'a
            citka lo plise</tt></div>
      </blockquote>
      <div><tt><br>
        </tt><tt>People seem to use {</tt><tt>nu</tt><tt>} or {</tt><tt>ka</tt><tt>}
          a lot of times when {</tt><tt>zu'o</tt><tt>} would be more
          useful. At least my understanding is that {</tt><tt>zu'o</tt><tt>}
          has a {</tt><tt>ce'u</tt><tt>} place, as "giving" {</tt><tt>lo
          zu'o dunda</tt><tt>} and "receiving" {</tt><tt>lo zu'o te
          dunda</tt><tt>} are certainly two different activities.</tt><tt><br>
        </tt></div>
    </blockquote>
    <tt><br>
    </tt><tt>zu'o is a subtype of nu, which is a general abstractor for
      events. nu unites/stands in for pu'u, zu'o, mu'e and za'i. It
      saves you a syllable and the trouble of picking the right one of
      those four or of having to narrow it down. If zu'o had a ce'u,
      then so would nu.</tt><br></div></blockquote><div><br>Shoot. Looks like I've been totally misusing it. <br></div>

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